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I think you are missing the point.
Let me ask some rhetorical questions to illustrate my thinking here:
1) When has the Republican Party been at its finest?
2) When were we united as true Conservatives?
3) When was the Contract With America born?
4) When did we lose our way?
5) When did we become the party of wimps?
6) When did we start to slide towards the middle (slouching towards Gammorah?)
7) When did we become the party of earmarks and overspending?
I think that Anne's point is this. It is better to unite against a common enemy than to allow a traitor within the walls. The Republican Congress was at its finest when we could come together to fight the liberalism of Bill Clinton. We have been at our worst with a moderate, populist POTUS in George Bush.
The Bible says this: "I would rather you be hot or cold, for if you are luke warm, I will spit you out of my mouth."
Bush, although he has accomplished much good, has been a "luke warm" conservative, and the Republican Party has suffered. America gave up on us in 2006, not because we were too Conservative, but because we were not Conservative enough. Cold milk is good. Hot milk makes hot chocolate. But milk at room temperature will turn your stomach.
If we allow John McCain to become POTUS, we will become a Party at Room Temperature, and we will turn America's stomach.
This is why Ann says she will campaign for Hillary if McCain gets the nomination. She understands that as distasteful as that might be, it may be the only think that forces us to rediscover who we as Republicans are. Prosperity has caused us to lose ourselves. We need either a strong Conservative leader to remind us of what we should be, or a strong Liberal leader to remind us (and America) of what we should not.
But here is what I don't get..., we were told to go along with Bob Dole because he was a great American hero and it was his turn. And truthfully, he had no great plans for how to get us back on track. He spent so much time in the Senate that he was committee-ified. He lost and we got Monicagate.
And now everyone is saying support McCain. He is a great American hero (honest, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, he is truly one of our greatest American hero's because he did more than just get a body part blown off or take a bullet), and it is his turn. Oh, and he was for the surge.
But he doesn't have any vision. He doesn't have any plan. All McCain wants is to BE the POTUS for himself. Because he always wanted it. He coveted it. He desires it.
And frankly, that leaves me cold. It leaves me so cold, that I have to say that Ann makes more sense than Ed. Because if you are telling me that I should support a guy that is exactly NOT on the same page, not just a little to the left or a little to the right, but not trustworthy, and whom I have no doubt will ask his buddy John Kerry about our Supreme court nominees, and whom I think will give us amnesty and get railroaded into giving us all the Democrat party points, then I have to just say NO (sorry Nancy Reagan but hey, you aren't Ronald either).
Ann is right that Hilliary will fight the war on terror by being even more of a terror than George. Ann is right that the Clintons (whom I also truly find repulsive) know when they are lying. Ann is right that at least the Clintons live by the polls and at least 51% of Americans will get a say in things (unlike McCain who doesn't give a s**t about anybodies opinion except his own).
So I will not be going along with McCain if nominated. I will stay home.
Better the devil I know than the wolf in lambs clothes.
I do not want Clinton or McCain as President. I'd just as soon vote for Obama than McCain. I'm praying that Romney does very well on Super Tuesday. I just wish Huckabee would get out of the race to stop the split of votes amongst Conservatives. This is the only reason why McCain is doing well. Romney and Huckabee have split 99 delegates whereas McCain only has 93 delegates.
Ann is funny. And for the first time, I Alan Colmes cracked me up, too.
C'mon, guys...lighten up.
Like 2/3 of all Republicans, Romney and McCain supported the surge from the beginnning and were against timetables for withdrawal. For the last 9 months and 14 GOP debates, McCain had a chance to attack Romney about this lie but he waits until 3 days before the Florida Primary, and all it's military voters, with Romney rising in the polls, to execute a Clintonian political hit job.
Now McCain wants our support? Este es muy loco, no? Well, we won't. Like Ann Coulter, we would rather elect a democrat who will let the illegals stay, close Gitmo and insult capitalists then elect a Republican who let the illegals stay, close Gitmo and insult capitalists.
Clinton and McCain will fail miserably - at least if Clinton fails, the GOP won't be blamed for it so we can take back Congress in 2010 and the White House in 2012.
Comprende?
It's basically that the conservative base hasn't coalesced around anybody, and for good reason; none of the other candidates are thorough, trustworthy conservatives. Only Thompson and Hunter fit that description (neither perfectly), and neither one of them managed to get off the ground, for reasons unrelated to their conservatism.
The exit polls in Florida showed that McCain won the moderates and independents, people who want abortion to remain legal and who don't attend church much. The rest of the Republican voters -- the solid social conservatives, the solid fiscal conservatives, the church-going types -- split their votes between Romney and Huckabee. As the voters got more moderate, they split their votes evenly between Romney, Giuliani, and McCain. McCain won on the his strength among Independents.
I'm with you, though; if the country's going into a tailspin, I'd rather the Democrats get blamed.
preguntate porque Willard no hablaba de "shamnestia" en Florida.
and ask yourself why the Cubans voted for McCain 4 to 1.
of course when the salesman/panderer went down there to promise them whatever he was promising that day, he ended his speech with "patria o muerte, venceremos"
ya know... trying to "get down" with the cubanos.
too bad it's Castro's slogan
hahahahahahahaahhahahahah
Coulter does more to fight back against the liberal machine than just about anybody this side of Rush. Maybe you could accept her occasional excesses with the understanding that she gets attacked, viciously, 24/7.
And you know, she always has a point. Like the <gasp> "faggot" kerfuffle. Didn't some actor have to go to reeducation camp for using the term right before she used it? Perhaps, just perhaps, she doesn't hate faggots, and was alluding to the fascist left.
Yes, let's turn on our own. Ignore the dKos behind the curtain. Ignore the Billary. Ignore the monolithically liberal MSM that actually does real damage to our country.
Yes. Let's attack one of our own, who speaks out and fights back.
"The Stupid Party."
I too can barely hold down my lunch at the thought of pulling the lever for McCain, and the idea that he's the Repub frontrunner has put me into a quasi-depression since Florida. I finally made peace with the proposition by looking at it this way:
There will be two Democrats running for president in '08. Both will share similar views about illegal immigration (the more the merrier), taxes (the higher the better), global warming (hysteria is needed NOW), and the economy (no economy can't be fixed by putting a shiv into the back of Big Business). Of the two candidates, McCain will almost certainly be better on the Islamofascism war, and will probably be better on controlling spending (not because I see McCain as such a spending hawk, but because the "other" Dem will certainly be from the "drunken sailor" school of public administration). Its an open question whether McCain would be any better on judicial nominees; I have enormous suspicion about his recent conversion to the merits of strict constructionism. (It can't be something they wear on their sleeve, apparently.)
So we'll have two Dems to select from. Both will be terrible for the country, but one will be a little less terrible. With no enthusiasm whatsoever I will give McCain my vote. I will give the Repubs NONE of my money, and will try to be utterly indifferent to McCain should he win the presidency. He certainly will not have my moral support or positive wishes.
Maybe in the next go-round, there will be a Republican on the ballot.
There is still the problem that if McCain should win and follow George W. Bush, the party of Ronald Reagan will have ceased to exist. A Conservative Republican party will have to be reconstructed from about a 1969 level.
They simply aligned themselves with Conservatives in regards to security issues. Then those Neo-cons that were originally Republicans, moved over on some social issues - completing a marriage made in hell.
I had always understood it to be an anti-semitic code word for "conservative who cares a little TOO much about the Jews."
but one doesn't need to worry about the jews.
The American jews seem to be doing just fine.
And the ISRAELIS (whom I admire a great deal) - well they have over 100 nukes with means to deliver them.
not to mention a conventional army easily capable of whipping any of its neighbors.
so I'm not entirely sure we need to care too much about them either.
our national interests aren't always Israel's, and vice versa.
Back then ALL were Jewish Israelis (with American dual citizenship I assume) and Socailist Democrats.
Even today most are Jewish Socialist Liberal Democrats - and the so called "Republicans" among them are posers.
There is a reason that Israel always gets a free pass (just look at who the founders were - only takes common sense to figure the bias out).
911 gave those in power an excuse to invade Iraq and embrace the Neocon philosophy (which is basically - Might makes Right, Emperial America so Israel remains safe) - and those in power embraced the Neocon agenda to give wieght to their true goal. Securing natural resources in a trouble part fo the world.
Colonization - what we fought and died to free ourselves from two hundred years ago.
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anyway - with the clusterfuck that the black hole Iraqnam is - the neoclowns are permanently disscredited by history and will simply fade away in another 5 yrs time.
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BTW the so called surge is starting to fade - more are begining to die - once again.
so we gonna sit on our asses and break the military? or step up to the plate and call for a National Draft?
There's no need for a draft, we have plenty of troops available. For example, we could pull our troops out of Europe and send them to Iraq. That would allow for a HUGE surge in troop numbers!
One of the functions of voting is communication. Frankly, I don't know any other way of communicating "No $ale" to the people running the Republican party -- the ones who made it possible for us to have two Democrats to choose from. Do you?
I think part of the problem is that for the first time, their conservative brand is not being bought, and they can't believe it. They remind me of the Air America folks who can't comprehend their poor listenership... and demand that something be done to balance the airwaves...If you trust free markets, trust the voters...
Conservatism is not dead--had a better conservative candidate emerged (Jeb Bush, George Allen, Rick Santorum, John Thune, etc) McCain wouldn't be in the mix. But if Conservatives really believe that the war against Islamofascism is the most important issue of our time, how can they not support the one gut who will take the battle to them (and cut spending, protect the unborn and support conservative judges).
I am a conservative who gladly and proudly supports McCain.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHahahahahaahahahahaha
yeah, he might get electeed in backwoods Mississipi now. Nowhere else.
of course, he can make a living being a rabble rousing radio talk show host - precisely what he's doing.
George Allen? macaca boy? hahaahahahahahahahaah
you keep on dreaming
how about
Rick Santorum?
LFMAO!
i have held the (nearly) same position as ann has put forth for several months now. i have posted on it at my place and others' abodes across the internet. i'm just glad to see ann, rush and the others finally jumping on board with me ;)
he has been being promoted as the darling of the msm since he jumped sides and joined with mckelvey of americans for gun safety a million years ago. he likes to do anything he can to further his "maverick" image - especially if it gives him a chance to sell out the conservatives.
mccain is MARGINALLY stronger than the dems on thw gwot, but only marginally so. he has promised to close gitmo on his "first day as president" and further to give constitutional protection and rights to enemy combatants. his condemnation of "enhanced interrogation techniques" becomes almost secondary at that point.
why do you think the msm is promoting mccain so strongly? because they like his policies? his stance on the war? no, it's because they believe that whomeever the dems put up can beat him. plain and simple.
if moderate republicanism is what the majority of the republican voters want, than somebody PLEASE explain to me what happened so that we lost the majority of congress?? republicans in congress have been ignoring the conservatives for years and moving left - in mccain's case so far left that he bypassed the center, and yet people were soooo fed up with that they either didn't vote or voted for the democrates.
wake up people! we cannot out moderate/liberal the democrats. the voters who are supporting mccain are not the conservatives and they do not make up the majority of the party. in all seriousness, mccain cannot win - and (as i have said elsewhere) any republican who has convinced himself that mccain can win is just pissing in the wind.
--Anthony (Los Angeles)
Not sure why you did that - must be personal animus.
I've always liked Buchanan, he is not mean spirited like that Nazi Coulter either.
not to mention a very smart fella.
He's an isolationist America-Firster and an anti-Semite. Other than that, I'm sure he's a wonderful guy.
~ Peter (New Hampshire)
thanks!!
I concur
The nomination process is not over and McCain is not yet the nominee. It is much too premature to ponder a Clinton-McCain faceoff.
Anyway, I hope you guys realize that the "Gay Old Party" is going down in flames this year. What a pathetic bunch of "top tier" candidates.
At a minimum its 4 years of McCain followed by 4 years of a Democratic President.
At the other end, we get 8 years of McCain followed by 4 to 8 years of McCain's handpicked VP (or a Democrat if the VP loses).
We're looking at potentially 8-16 years of Liberal policies with a McCain win.
There will be only one option to come out from under a 16 years of Liberal Presidential Dynasty if McCain 'Liberals out'. Split the Party.
Hillary can be 4 years and out.
Spite. She angry that the Republican party is about to select McCain as it's nominee. She's pissed. It's an emotional response to an incomprehensible situation. I feel it too. McCain is not a Republican. A national hero, yes, but not a Republican. So she is letting it all out here. Of course, she won't vote for Hillary (and it wouldn't matter if she did), but she won't vote for McCain either. There are lines that cannot be crossed and she is saying that he's crossed them again and again. If you bothered to listen, what she is saying is the he's the MSM Republican candidate. Thus, he is the end of the Republican party. If McCain gets the nomination, it doesn't matter who the POTUS is, we are now going to pay. Take a look at Britain's Tory party these days to get an idea about where McCain will lead the Republicans. I suppose (and she knows) that's where we are going.
Some highly visible conservative pundits now beg for a "Romney Rally!" Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, George Will and Sean Hannity all MIA. Way to read the tea-leaves. Where were the experts before Florida's primary, when overcoming Romney's 4.9% deficit would have been simpler than crushing McCain's national momentum. Thanks for nothing talking heads. Your anemic, half-hearted efforts arrived far to late and leave your fans stunned and disenchanted.
Never, never, never... will I vote for John McCain. I and many other real conservatives will do all we can to ensure his defeat. McCain's 08 loss will guarantee the need for another GOP nominee in 2012. I pray Mitt Romney returns, he was the best republican candidate from the start... highly accomplished, vibrantly handsome, obviously brilliant, entirely wholesome and filthy rich. To much perfection can be a startling thing. Upon reflection, there will undoubtedly be heavy hearts.
I worked hard to get Governor Romney elected this time and my vote will be waiting for him again four years from now. To that end, come November, I'll be voting against John McCain and for the democrat. Conservatives know how to make hard choices. Tough times, call for difficult decisions and sometimes drastic measures. I welcome the opportunity to help save the GOP from itself. John McCain is poison and death. Only if conservatism survives, can it live to fight another day. That's my mission now, and I'm not mormon.
Coulter has also said in her own column that it might be better to have a Democrat destroy America, rather than a "Republican" of dubious Reagan roots.
I have to say, she might just have a point.
Without the support of the base, McCain will not be elected President. There are millions of conservative Republicans, like myself, who will not vote for the man.
I will never support John McCain -- never. I'm offended that conservatives have allowed the MSM to determine the person to face democrats in November. How like the Clinton media to be qable to hqnd-pick their opponent.
If it is to be McCain, I'll vote either 3rd party or write in Mitt. As said earlier, If America is to go to hell in a hand basket, at least let it be under the watch of a Democrat. With McCain as the conservative candidate -- the Clintons will have a field day. Thank God my retirement benefits go into effect this month.
Eight years should be plenty of time for a legitimate third party to spring from the grassroots ....
"Pandering Party"
"Salesman Party"
"Flip Flop Party"
"Will Promise anything" party
or what?
I mean as much as I could never agree with someone like Huckabee over his "Life Amendment", I can respect the man and respect his opinions.
He is authentic.
I'll vote for an authentic person that I disagree (raving liberal etc) ) with over a snake oil salesman every day of the week
Voters have.
If you cannot be loyal or rational enough to go along with a bonafide war hero who has been conservative since the Reagan era, so be it.
but McCain has run a far better campaign and is much more personally engaging than Dole.
I voted for Dole - I thought the guy got a raw deal - I liked the fact he was a little ornery.
but his campaign did suck.
btw.. read Michael Lewis' book on the 1996 republican primaries.. called "Losers" or "Trail Fever"..
very very funny... and very insightful.
---- Climate is a cycle of change from ice age to warming to another ice age and so on that happened when man was not even around. Some changes were pretty abrupt by the way
---- Water vapor has more to do with Global warming then CO2 which is minute in comparison.
---- Even if we stopped all fuel based industry now, it would make little or no difference to stopping Global Warming.
--- The Computer models to predict global warming are far from accurate and have little to do with science, think crystal ball.
---- Whose to say that Global Warming may have some positive impacts and who knows if we are living in the best possible climate now? Maybe maybe not.
---- All the dire predictions about Global warming are just fear mongering whereas the proposals to stop Global Warming will most certainly cost jobs, lower our standard of living and most likely cause more harm than good as the money and resources could be more wisely spent elsewhere.
What is most troubling is that John McCain is advocating more and more Government regulation, higher gasoline taxes, controlling our lives via what we drive, etc, etc, Everything he is proposing will all result in a lower standard of living, fewer jobs. Not to mention his refusal to pursue the most obvious solution to our dependence on Middle Eastern Oil, drill drill and drill some more in our own back yard. That's what other Nations are doing off our Coast. How self destructive can we be? Not very conservative and very very self destructive. The so called do gooders always do the most harm via unintended consequences. So if John McCain becomes the GOP nominee the only reason I would support him is because despite all of his failings he is still for standing up against the Islamic terrorists who want to kill us all. So he is a little less suicidal then the Dems.
I think being "a little less suicidal" is a good thing. A lot of people on this blog apparently don't agree.
While McCain may have Ted Olson's endorsement, Mitt Romney has Andrew McCarthy's. I understand that Ted Olson was less conservative than his departed wife, Barbara. McCarthy, however, successfully prosecuted terrorist cases.
I'd rather see the enemy win than a traitor. Do you really want him enacting all manner of McCain-Feingold unconstitutional crap and laying it at the feet of the Republican party?
Romney is correct. Washington is broken. Spending is out of control, liberal judges are writing law, our laws (immigration) are broken without consequence, the deficit is growing while the dollar is falling, gas prices are rising while we become more dependent on foreign oil (even though we have reserves available that we don't tap because of the environmental lobby), etc. The longer we delay fixing these problems, the worse they become. How much pain will it take before we wake up?
Romney will eventually turn the country around at that point. But it will be even harder then than it is now. But this is a man who has accepted and conquered these types of challenges in the past. And he will do it (as he did in Massachusetts) without taking a salary. He'll do it (as he did for the Olympics) because of his personal commitment to public service, and his patriotic zeal for America. And he will do it (as he did in his courageous stand in defending traditional marriage in Massachusetts) while defending the important foundation of the family, and the religious Christian values that founded this great nation, which is the foundation and soul of our society. He will do it because he is a compassionate and patriotic man, and because he is one of the smartest people this world has known.
Oh that's right, EVERYONE.
Whether you're left, right, center, Commie, Fascist, or whatever, it should be obvious that Coulter is just a media addict that will say anything to ruffle feathers and sell books.
However, I firmly believe that John McCain can cause the USofA far more reaching and permanent damage than Hillary or Obama could even begin to dream of, if for no other reason than they'll be opposed by a sizable Repub minority (or maybe even a majority) in Congress. Whereas McCain will have their support, lukewarm as it might be, as well as his "reaching out" to the Dems.
Anyone want to bet against the amnesty bill (McCain-Kennedy) getting dusted off and passed within the first 6 months if he has a Dem majority in Congress?
Fair and balanced? Who are they kidding? Why does John McCain need money when he has FoxNews? They have their heads rammed so far up his backside they can smell his breath.
Ramussen, the well-respected and incredibly accurate pollster, has McCain with a 2 point lead nationally over Romney. FoxNews? They have McCain with a 28 point lead! Calling that an outlier would be like saying Boy George seems a little gay.
So they start off their news segment with this rediculous poll. Then they ask each of their guests - "Can Romney do ANYTHING to bridge this HUGE gap?".
The point is that the gap is imaginary. It's sole purpose is to depress the Romney vote. "Don't bother voting for Romney people, it won't do any good!".
Let's remind ourselves of some FACTS about John McCain's "victories" thus far:
1) In each case, he has lost the CONSERVATIVE vote by double-digits.
2) Two of the primaries were "open" in which on average 40% of the voters were Moderate/Liberal. Anyone who thinks these "cross-over" votes will still be McCain's in the General needs their heads examined with a reality-a-scope.
3) In the "closed" (ahem) Florida Primary, we had 39% Moderate/Liberal voters, a full 14% above the National Average for "closed" primaries. We also had numerous reports of Independents being allowed to vote illegally.
4) Whereas McCain has had the Moderates/Liberals to himself, Romeny has had to split the Conservatives among 3 and 4 people. If this entire contest were between just Mccain and Romney, McCain would not have won yet.
If we allow the MSM and the DNC to choose our candidate for us, then we are the most foolish party of all and deserve what fate befalls us.
LAST POINT: HOW WILL MCCAIN COMPETE FINANCIALLY?
The base hates McCain. They despise him. And so who is going to give money to Mccain's Campaign? The Moderates and Liberals who have been 'crossing-over' to vote for him in the primaries? No, please, it is to laugh.
McCain will be competing with NO MONEY against untold riches in the general counting on a dispirited voting base to save him. It will be a slaughter.
I’ll repeat this line at the risk of boring people. John McCain on a debate stage with Obama is going to look like Mickey Rooney vs. Denzel Washington and sound even worse. If you have not noticed, the man is not very bright, he only has one answer to everything, I was a POW, I was in command of the biggest squadron. While I thank him for that, it is not the answer to everything.
Most of those moderate/liberal voters went for McCain because he looks better to them than anything the Democrats have to offer. They are the swing vote that can put a Republican, no matter how impure, into the White House.
The balance of power in Congress can swing with a single election. It will take decades to repair the damage to SCOTUS if the Democrats control the White House, even for four years. The liberals will retire in Hillabama's first term to be sure that they will be replaced with even more extreme liberals. It will take two terms of Republicans, or the ravages of old age or a major scandal, to pry them loose so that someone who reads and believes in the Constitution can take their places.
As to the damage that will be done to the world, to civilization, and to many millions around the world ... well, think it through.
I don't like McCain. I don't have to. I don't trust him with everything, but I trust him to do better than the alternatives. And I won't have to hold my nose. After voting for Carter (hey, I had just came of age) I know what stink is.
Have you ever heard of satire?
All Ann has ever done is advance true Conservative ideals and, in the face of an overwhelmingly liberal media, uses outrageous comments so that she can be heard.
It is the shrinking violet, weak kneed, "can't we just all get along" mentality that has gotten us McBushie to begin with.
Let it rip, Ms. Coulter.
His record speaks volume otherwise.
The one thing certain that a Hillary in the WH would do is stir the GOP to Its pasty, crunchy conservative soul, and unify the coalitions on the right who have had willing accomplices of the GOP for too long to vote anything but their own self-interest.
Yep, judges are important, and I don't much look forward to the possibility of Hillary making the appointments. But hey, we got Souter from who? Stevens? Kennedy?
A lame duck president has been able to push back for the last year with token conservative support. Imagine what would happen if the GOP got a real spine?
I'm not afraid of any of that, nor of letting the GOP clean its house of RINO's and other opportunists before 2010.
I agree with everything she said. McCain would be worse for the country and is more liberal than Hillary is. She, at least, has the courage of her convictions. I would vote for Hillary before I would vote for McCain.
RINOs in the Senate and House would do well to remember 2006. If they contemplate the harpooned body of John McCain in 2009, they will join the real GOP stalwarts and oppose the socialist policies of Hillary.
If we have McCain as President, we'll get the same socialism with no one to stand up against it. I'm not voting for that.
We need to get past Reagan and stand on Republican principles. Those are not substantially different -- it's just that if we say it that way, we're not turning ourselves into a personality cult.
the wild, sleazy and corrupt spending binges.
Congresses fault for doing what Congresses do (though Repubs got elected on promising to put an end to this?)
or W's fault for not vetoing a SINGLE spending bill? (although now, in his last year, he's gotten "fiscal religion"
(after pouring a trillion or two into the iraqi shithole)
I would agree with your logic IF McCain HAD won the support of Republican Party. But he has won with Democrats, liberals, and Independents who have crossed over! Romney has crushed McCain among conservative voters in every state thus far. Conservative constitute the majority, based on the fact that Juan McCain tried to put the mantle of Reagan immediately on his narrow shoulders and claimed to be the conservative uniter. If Huckleberry Hound wasn't in the race to siphon off conservatives, Romney wins IA. and Fl. and would be the front runner as we speak.
As for your contention concerning Huckabee: This is a primary. That's what happens in a primary. In '92 and '96, it's even what happened in the general. That's how the system works. You can whine about it and lose everytime, or learn to work it and do great things for our nation. You pick.
As usual, even with exaggeration, she's not far wrong.
Let the 70s show train wreck that the Dems are going to take us down happen under their watch, not the GOPs. And as for the GOP, they deserve to lose for abandoning conservative principles in the frist place. If the GOP Congressional majority wanted to further ratify the Great Society governing principles by pushing an entitlement prescription drug program which was politically calculated to secure the AARP vote - Not! - and if the Rove in his ever calculating move advised Bush to sign Campaign Fascist Reform into law in 2002 - A blatant attack on my First Amendment rights if their ever was one! - And if John McCain gets endorsed by the NY Times then, really, let's call a spade a spade here. The Constitution is dead; the GOP RINOs put the last nail in. We live in an Administrative State, courtesy of FDR. I'm getting rid of my U.S. citizenship and getting the hell out of here.
Enjoy the mushroom clouds in your future as John McCain opens the Southwest border in order to pad Democrat party voter registration.
Hasta la vista, Baby!
If McCain becomes President it will give credibility to those that claim there is no difference between a Republican and a Democrat. If McCain becomes President it will lead to Republican apathy, which is never a good thing.
I'm supporting Mitt Romney, and hoping that somehow he can defy the current odds and win this thing.
In the meantime, if you want to see a hilarious spoof of the Princess Bride involving Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, go to www.conservativesformitt.blogspot.com It's amazing how similar saying Huckabee looks to saying Humperdink...
I would rather suffer the damage that "President Hillary" would do in the oval office than to sacrifice the soul of the Republican party. John McCain is a war hero - no doubt about that - but he's a liberal. He's Pro-Amnesty, and Pro-tax. He's Anti-Free Speech and he's not strong on the Second Amendment. If we lose the soul of the Republican party - we'll never get it back. I don't want the Republican party to become what the Conservative Parties of Europe have become - with little to distinguish them philosophically from their labour counterparts.
If McCain becomes the Republican nominee - THERE WILL BE a third party true Conservative that enters the race for Republicans like me to vote for - and we'll vote for him. Yeah - it will guarantee another Clinton administration - but that is better than losing our Republican party imo.
How long have you been a Republican? Which presidential candidate has ever been the "soul" of the GOP?
GW Bush, GHW Bush, Nixon, Eisenhower, Hoover, Coolidge, Taft? Even if you say Reagan he wasn't above (or below, if you prefer) compromise.
John McCain has given his party the finger to his own party for years, this year he gets it back from me.
The Mittobit discussion has reminded me of the anger I felt as the media kept harming on Romney's religion all summer long and then how Huckabee deliberately exploited that without any condemnation from the other political candidates. I think many Republicans who vote on Super Tuesday will give their vote to McCain because he is the frontrunner and they are ready to see the primary process come to an end. I predict McCain will prove too old and lacking in intellectual agility to make a successful general election candidate. I watched the Democrat debate last night and could not imagine McCain debating either Obama or Hillary on either health care or the economy and I don't think his stock phrases or his schtick will even be adequate on Iraq and other foreign policy issues.
Romney would have been able to hold his own on both and I do think the economic challenges are bearing down on us just as rapidly as the military and foreign policy challenges. We need a smart, capable person in the White House, and one who has some depth. Poor Mitt, he is so good natured and polite that he can't knee-cap his opponents as observed yesterday, and yet he still gets labelled as the negative one while McCain and Huckabee launch personal attacks and are somehow viewed as above it all.
There are other more moderate Republican I might have found a way to support if they had sought the nomination and won out. . but not McCain and now not Huckabee (for his Clintonesque approach to politics.) I am still hopefully, but in my more realistic moments, i know that a Romney success is a long shot now. Nobody wants to face McCain's wrath (even Fox News has lost its way and hasn't been especially fair and balanced). And the conservatives are too deeply divided to prevent our destruction as a source of influence within the Republican party by McCain and Huckabee . .not to mention not enough time.
I know Romney is not the perfect candidate, but atleast he wanted to unite us and has tried to do that. Does anyone even pretend that Huckabee and McCain cared about any such thing?
The logic? The logic is that if you look at recent numbers you'll see that you get a Congress of the opposite party of the President. And if you look at the constitution, you'll discoverer that your Senator is more important than your president. I'll take Bill Clinton again if I can have 75% GOP in both houses.
And in general, the masses in the middle vote like this - they balance their vote.
So Hillary or McCain? Who cares, same thing. Just give me some solid numbers in congress. The only way to get that is to have a Democrat as president.
Yea, I would rather Fred was still in, but for some stupid reason we continue to let the people in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina pick who will run for President. It's a dumb design, we get a dumb result.
Better to have a real Democrat in there and be free to go nuts when they try to socialize medicine, adopt Kyoto's successor, give amnesty, raise taxes, lower productivity and on and on and on.
Go Hillary!
John McCain is about 99% as bad as Hillary Clinton and if we’re going to have the class-warfare, profit is criminal, taxes are too low, gun confiscating, more government is the solution, and amnesty policies of the Democratic party, we want to make sure it’s by a Democrat so voters will be clear as to who to blame in 2012 when those policies inevitably wreck the economy, our culture, and cripple our ability to defend ourselves from those who wish us harm.
It is equally important for the good of the party and for the conservative movement in the long run (even as anathema as it is to vote for Hillary) to send the message to the Republican establishment that to back a candidate this completely unacceptable to us is something they better not do again and that message will only be heard clearly through a massive and excruciating culling at the ballot box.
I am tired of Republicans feeling they have to suck up to the Left. Let the Democrats do the sucking, which they do so well.
Ann makes a valid point. And, as she would say, this must be her 12th "career ending moment" according to every doofus who thinks the New York Times and Alan Colmes actually reflect the American public.
By the way, Reagan raised taxes after he cut them, Reagan granted amnesty to illegals, Reagan withdrew from Beirut without a fight after the barracks were bombed.
Think of Barack Obama and his "Present" votes when abortion legislation came up. You'll be doing the same (voting against) if you vote "present" (fail to vote).
Choices are rarely as black and white as we would have them. In this case, we have a darker shade of grey and a lighter shade of grey. If you don't vote for the shade closest to your own, you risk having the other shade win. The "other shade" will either be Hillary or Barack.
Your choice.
Secondly, Ann thrives on controversy, so she's deliberately pushing the "inconceivable" buttons.
I take it for what it is, and I continue to value Ms. Coulter for her willingness to say the things the rest of us occasionally think, and then put out of our minds because they seem too heretical. It's a valuable function, and gives us truth more often than not.
That being said, I'm not going to vote for Clinton, ever, no matter who she's running against. And I disagree with Ms. Coulter on this: Clinton lies far more frequently than McCain.
(Unrelated to this topic, please visit my political blog, "Plumb Bob Blog: Squaring the Culture," at http://www.plumbbobblog.com. Thanks.)
Perhaps I have McQeeg Derangement Syndrome. Better that than be a party lemming, following it over a cliff.
I stand athwart the Straight Talk Express yelling "Stop!"
Remember the "Fallacy of the Misplaced Middle."
Since 1998, McCain has been something like the 47th most conservative Senator.
Imagine Clinton or Obama with two or three openings on the Supreme Court. That would make conservatism more irrelevant than it is today (vide: Coulter), and set the course for American jurisprudence for a generation or more.
Her point is that philosophically she doesnt believe there is a difference between McCain and the dems.
She believes that if McCain wins the presidency it will be a failure that will paint all the R's for decades to come. Kind of like what Arnold has done to the R's in California.
To make her point she says she will support Hillary. You just have to understand her sense of humor/logic and not be so serious.
Not everybody who speaks on behalf of conservatism has to be a dull old sobersides.
It remains to be seen how much his viewers will follow Hannity's endorsement of Mitt Romney. His efforts to promote Rudy Guiliani didn't translate into many delegates.
B) The comment you're reading is a mere quip. I have written at length about why I believe McCain is not fit for office. If you'd like to read my thoughts, check my blog site.
C) The man served his country in the military, and I'm grateful. That doesn't make him fit for office, though. (I'm also grateful for the men who serve by collecting garbage. Are you? That's a tough job, too.) His service in the Senate has been less than honorable. He's one of the most disliked men in the Senate. He's famous for bullying, bad temper, taking disagreement personally, etc. And don't forget the Keating Five scandal; he's corruptible. Despite his military service, he's a man of low character, and would make a very poor president.
D) I would be honored to sound like Ann Coulter. She's one of the brightest women in Washington, and always has her facts straight. I sincerely hope, however, that I never sound like you.
Either that or she really likes to say outrageous things to get attention and sell books.
Actually, more likely both are true.
(What? Its not a joke?)
She will continue to do so until the media finally comes to their senses and and just ignores her.
McCain = maverick (liberal) policies
Clinton = united opposition to liberalism.
I'm no Coulter fan, but the logic is good.
Even as such a gambit, mind you, it's a questionable method.
I'm neither but her method tends to push me away toward McCain, not away.
She's the left's best friend.
That man is very clever (and very funny)
http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/...
Are they liberals too Ann?
The best we can hope for at this point is a brokered convention, and a knight on a white steed riding in to save the party from a fate worse than death.
Anybody for a "draft Newt" movement?
The opening lines of Gingrich's new book, Real Change, observe that the vast majority of Americans are center-right, and agree on most major issues. 87% agree English should be the national language. 92% agree children should be allowed to pray in school. 79% agree we can't negotiate with terrorists. 96% agree that Congress and the President need to do something to fix Social Security in the next few years. 71% say they would support a flat income tax of 17% for everyone, with standard exemptions for each adult, married couple, and child dependent. 73% agree we should be drilling oil off ANWR, and 65% agree we should be building nuclear power plants. Etc.
The press, the universities, and the lunatic Democrats are a tiny minority, and here's the rub: McCain agrees with that tiny minority much of the time. But Gingrich does not.
If any one candidate credibly hammered these issues, that candidate would not only win the Republican nomination solidly, they'd win the election solidly.
I say, draft Newt, and ditch McCain.
Any takers?
A litte quiz:
Other than Hillary, which GOP candidate has a well documented history of sleazy funding connections? (Hint: The same one whose whole appeal is "you can trust me because I'm trustworthy)
Other than Hillary, which candidate narrowly escaped indictment for these activities?
Other than Hillary, which candidate thinks that they have waited for "their" turn, and gets rather testy when people ask whether that is sufficient reason to become president.
Other than Hillary, which candidate has a long history of score settling with their political enemies?
Other than Hillary, which candidate seems incapable of admitting a mistake/lie/distortion after everyone else watching knows they have them dead to rights? (How is that different than awarding a medal of freedom to Tenet, or refusing to fire Rumsfeld years after his incompetence was impossible to hide?)
Other than Hillary, which candidate thinks there might be "too much freedom" on the internet, or that we should use unilateral cap & trade to address global warming, or thinks that the "excesses" of talk radio needs to be rained in (fairness doctrine anyone?)
Other than Hillary, which candidate has proven to be a remarkably polarizing figure who blames right wing "extremists", "nativists", and "bigots" for his problems?
Other than Hillary, which GOP candidate thinks that several terms in the Senate makes them the most qualified to be CEO of the country?
Other than Hillary, which candidate seems to think that living off taxpayers monies is more "noble" work than working in the private sector, or talks about putting "greedy" people in jail?
Other than Hillary, which GOP candidate wants to create a new voting bloc a third of the size of the current voting populace that will consume far more entitlements than they will pay for?
Other than Hillary, which GOP candidate opposed drilling in ANWR, waterboarding, and wants to close Gitmo?
Other than Hillary, which candidate plans to win their parties nomination by sweeping NY, NJ, CT, and CA?
Other than Hillary, which candidate is willing to tear their own party's traditional coalitions apart in order to win the nomination?
He'll be an unmitigated disaster that will make us pine for the inexplicable malaise of Bush.
Anyway -- for me, Ann Coulter jumped the shark with her latest book, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism." I've loved much of her writing, and I was intrigued by the idea behind this particular book -- but when I read the first chapter (which was published as her weekly syndicated column some few years ago), it sounded to me like a hysterical rant, rather than a carefully-worded argument.
the point. I don't want Republicans in Congress having to go along with whatever schemes
he comes up with that are designed by Democrats.
No thank you.
(1) continue to let the water increase to a liberal boil slowly enough that the frog -- the conservative movement, the Republican Party, America herself -- stays in and dies.
(2) Turn the flame up to an immediate full boil so the frog realizes the danger and jumps out.
I can see the argument. Of course, so did Lenin -- "The worse, the better".
This is why I canceled my cable.
shrew harpy from hell.
on other hand, she is a fine representative for all the "REAL" Republicans around here, don't you think?
I'm still awaiting a scorecard from all these "real Republicans" as to how many of the tenets of the Contract with America they accomplished (10 -12 years later)
actually I'd love to see a "real Republican" run in a national election (and by "real" one I don't mean Willard who's merely a pandering phony)
but a real live fire breathing dragon... oh say... Tom De Lay.
or ANYONE associated with the Bush administration.
that November vote total of not much more than 30% would probably be sobering.
(or maybe not)
what do you think?
People like Coulter have made "conservatism" incoherent. Freedom in the marketplace, but tyranny in bedrooms and doctors' offices? Pro-growth tax policies, but anti-growth immigration policies?
The so-called reagan coalition isn't a three-legged stool, it's a three-headed monster.
it''s perfectly valid to say for republicans/conservatives that a (regulated) market approach works better than a govt approach (I say regulated because we all know people will screw other people if possible - see subprime, etc)
but your 2nd paragraph couldn't be MORE correct.
liberals like Hilary wanted to be my school headmistress who would enforce "political correctness" in school and at the workplace.
so called "conservatives" are interested in who is blowing whom not to mention other sexual activities that should be noone's business.
but this stemmed from the Clinton impeachment and then ran onward when W came into offfice. Previous conservatives couldn't give a flying intercourse about such things, Goldwater was up front about allowing gays in the military for e.g. and Reagan though deeply religious privately wasn't interested in making others toe his moral convictions.
just like Fred Thompson for e.g. (gotta love Fred Thompson, when asked about his guilty pleasures, he said his pleasures were many but none of them were 'guilty')
Hmmm.... ever think maybe, just maybe, she knows what she is doing and believes if she really did go out there for Hillary that she might hurt Hillary more than help her?
BTW, Ann's going to be at CPAC, no doubt organizing the Pantsuit Pachyderms.
and Olbermann can be very funny
that's why.
but even that can get a little old.
say about the 9/11 widows.
I think part of the problem is that for the first time, their conservative brand is not being bought, and they can't believe it. They remind me of the Air America folks who can't comprehend their poor listenership... and demand that something be done to balance the airwaves...If you trust free markets, trust the voters...
Conservatism is not dead--had a better conservative candidate emerged (Jeb Bush, George Allen, Rick Santorum, John Thune, etc) McCain wouldn't be in the mix. But if Conservatives really believe that the war against Islamofascism is the most important issue of our time, how can they not support the one gut who will take the battle to them (and cut spending, protect the unborn and support conservative judges).
I am a conservative who gladly and proudly supports McCain.
But George Allen? We'd never hear the end of Macakas. And as much as I like Jeb, and believe he would have been an infinitely better presidentthan his broher, I have to say, no more Bushes, and DEFINITELY no more Clintons!.
I've seen some people asking for Newt.... Would that be the same Newt who divorced his wife while she was dying of cancer? if so, he's disqualified himself on moral grounds a la Rudy.
er... maybe 75-25 in the national election.
That would make my day.
of course he could never get nominated.. much less be a political figure now (outside of backwoods Mississippi that is)
so he'll be the next great radio talk show host.
He'll be the WHITE Alan Keynes (without the oratory skills and without the intelligence, Keynes is a lunatic but a brilliant lunatic)
Alan Keyes.
Jeb is total Bush fatigue...Allen was the right guy--governor, border state, senator, young, good speaker...he was the goods....just one dumb statement...I'm not endorsing him, just saying he had the right credentials--
Newt is a non-starter....
I think McCain should pick either JC Watts, John Thune, or Christopher Ccx for VP...
The problem is that McCain represents the GOP and the GOP represents conservatism. I cannot, and will not vote for McCain. If America is to go to hell in a hand basket; at least let it be under the watch of a Democrat. With Hillary we'd manage to get the House and Senate back.
Remember: It took four years of Carter to give us a Reagan. (It was worth it)
What do you mean, "finally?"
Look, I love Ann to death. She is dead on 95% of the time. I love her acerbic wit. But from the beginning of her career, she has always had the 5% RIGHT OVER THE EDGE aspect. It became clear to most when she advocated carpet bombing the Middle East and forcibly converting survivors to Christianity days after 9/11.
So this latest rant is no shock or surprise.
Please, leave the Republican Party and go play with the conspiracty theorist over in the Libertarian Party. We can take it from here.
If you think McCain is unhealthy for the conservative movement, what in Sam Hill do you think Obama/Clinton will do? If they unilaterally pull troops, the effects upon us will be devastating and damn near irrevocable. If they institute socialized health care, we will have all the success turning it back that we've had with Social Security and welfare. If they put two or three more judges on the Supreme bench, we continue to abort four million children a year. Do you want the flu or the cancer? For the love of God and country, take the damn medicine and vote for McCain!
In this context, the right's only hope is for the Dems to nominate Hillary. That way conservatives can raise the boogey man (er girl) of the 60s one last time. If it's Obama, the GOP will be in quicksand, slowly sinking under the weight of a bunch of old, angry, white men who somehow, in the face of all other evidence, believe that they've been screwed all their lives.
The Bench. 2-3 justices will be gone in the next Presidental cycle. With Romney, there MAY be a chance of getting someone who leans conservative....and that would spell the end of Roe.
However, If either HRC or Obama and their Democratic congressget to appoint the judges, we guarantee that the slaughter of the unborn will continue unabated, probably in perpetuity.
ANY Republican is better than HRC or Obama.
Of course a conservative comeback is only possible if we teach principles of conservatism to everyone through example and word. We know public school won't teach children how to maintain a budget. Teaching needs to happen through strengthening the family.
Her best times are behind and became successful because everyone grew tired of the Clinton era. She will do a pole dance for Hannity and sell out the moderate conservatives for a dollar.
Since when did we become the party of power rather than the party of principle? Ann's presentation was wrong in this segment, but to say we shouldn't support McCain is correct. He is 4 more years of President Bush sans the Tax Cuts. We haven't had a conservative in Oval Office since 1988.
There are two parties who compete every year for the presidency. If a moderate wishes to have some influence on the person they vote for to gain the presidency, they join the party they feel is most like their views and try to influence the nominee. It's obvious that there is a large portion of moderates and independents in the Republican Party now. Conservatives have no issues courting that vote when it comes to the general election. They deserve to have some voice on the nominee as well.
McCain won in Florida, in a Republican only primary. Conservatives saying they'll now take their ball and go home is a childish reaction. Support the nominee like adults and run a better Conservative next time during the primaries.
Coulter is not helping ...
Does this beautiful, willowy, apparition of “MEN CAN ONLY DREAM”…?
Have an “Adam’s apple”…?
Olde soldier sends…!
Gosh that was really mean...
I take it back...!
I take it back...!
My bad...!
My BAD..!
Now tell me why you would vote for McCain
Party over principal??
You noticed too!
Those “beautiful gams” go all the way up to her fantastic tight bums…!
Ms Coulter, is truly a feme manifiic...!
We have theopportunity to elect an imperfect conservative (ANY of the three remaining GOP candidates is flawed as a Conservative) but she wants to let HILLARY fill the next supreme court vacancies, lead he war on terror and put Bill back in the WHite House.
SHe has lost her mind.
That was your first mistake in regards to Coulter.
I teach my 5 year old better manners. Fine, she and Rush and few others do NOT like him.
But if he wins, they need to grow up and deal with it.
Mark DV
Ada, MI
Also, Ann makes a good point. Republicans won't fight a president McCain and WE won't be able to blame a Democrat for all the Democrat deeds he does.
I'm a lifelong Republican -- voted Republican from Nixon through both Bush 43 terms, and I had decided before Ann even said it that I will vote for EITHER Democrat to keep McCain out of power under a hijacked banner that happens to belong to us conservatives.
I guess we're finding out who the REAL conservatives are.
I'm a seventyfive year olde geezer and I "Git It"...
Hang -in there babe.... with the other 50 percent...!
H&K's and that ain't Heckler and Kochs...!
I'm really curious whether the people behind this are really going to expound on those issues and whether they want to help her or hurt her.
Hillary does need to explain these! Will it happen? Not likely!!
My Republican-Democratic flip-flopping during college.
The Alaskan fish-cannery that I helped put out of business.
My internship at a law firm operated by Communists.
Living with Bill before our marriage.
Rejecting Bill's repeated marriage proposals.
Failing the bar exam.
Battling Ronald Reagan.
Being investigated for enormous profits from cattle futures trading.
Bankruptcy of the Whitewater Development Corporation.
My thoughts on Chelsea dating the son of a felon.
Being subpoenaed as the First Lady.
The scandal surrounding Whitewater - the lost billing records.
Bill and Gennifer Flowers.
Bill and Monica Lewinsky.
Why I stayed married to Bill.
My highest approval ratings ever thanks to Bill's scandalous behavior.
Supporting Bush and voting for the Iraq War Resolution.
Supporting Wal-Mart's anti-labor union practices.
The disastrous Clinton Health Care Plan.
Travelgate. My real role in the firings of White House employees.
Supporting same-sex marriage.
My fraudulent top campaign contributor, Norman Hsu.
My stance on the right to bear arms, abortion, and immigration.
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"[McCain's] nomination would mean the Republican party is RINO"
Fred, thanks for posting this at 12:12 PM, I needed the laugh.
Yeah, but that was in a pre-9/11 world. Ed Koch said that he disagreed with all of Bush's domestic policies, but he supported Bush because he felt that the war against Islamic extremism was the most important issue of our time. Apparently there's a lot of angry conservatives out there who no longer feel this way.
The one issue that inspires conservatives to defend Bush is his agressive response to 9/11. Bush is no true conservative on many other issues. Neither is McCain, and McCain is not nearly as likable as Bush. But like Bush, McCain is also strong in regards to taking the fight to Islamic extremists.
For those of you who think we've got four years to wait for a true blue conservative in these dangerous times that we live in, then I will refer to you as "9/10 consevatives".
party over Hillary, because it will no longer be my party. How many times have we asked, "How
can Democrats for people like the Clinton's?" Now we're being asked, expected, to vote for
McCain just because he's a Republican?
important you cause its broadest circulation, highlighting how you will express your disagreements with Senator McCain.
Olde soldier sends...!
McCain will be the GOP`s Mondale, the socialists within the gop purged when he loses in a landslide.
It be interesting for me to watch.
mccain = linc chafee
In other news, Huckabee indicated he'll support McCain if and when he drops out. A Fox News poll shows McCain would get roughly 3/4 of Huckabee's voters if he did drop out. Som much for the "a vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain" argument. Oh, and the poll showed McCain with a whopping 48% and the other two virtually tied at 20%.
So will we start hearing that a vote for Romney is a vote for McCain?
I will be writing in Fred on election day!
but WHY do Democrats even have a chance this year? did we not have a GOP president and BOTH houses of Congress for 6 years? Why the shift what happened!? exactly what can you people show Americans of conservatism to say, well the next 4 years will be different, why? what has changed? just because it still wont be a democrat?
The Media talks about politicians distorting records and lying, but just this page alone has it all, I just want to vote for someone who will sit down and say What are the problems we face, get a bunch of people who care and think about how to solve that problem,
hey guys Reagan raised taxes remember that?
drop the rhetoric, and lets figure out how to fix our Country
are you guys really sitting here and telling me that UNLESS a Republican is elected this country can't be healed?
or I guess you guys think there is nothing wrong with our country right now?
Let's face it, people--John McCain is not the most conservative Republican out there, but this will be a tough year for Republicans in any case, and he would do far less damage to the country in four years than Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama would do, and McCain could PREVENT lots of damage from a Democrat-controlled Congress with the veto pen, supported by Republican filibusters in the Senate. Politics is the art of the possible, and only majorities can govern, and with a confused electorate listening to lots of unrebutted lies from the media and the Democrats, majorities sometimes have to include the squishy middle. Even the great Ronald Reagan had to deal with a Democrat-controlled House for his entire two terms.
For those who want to stay home if McCain gets the nomination, with the idea of letting the Democrats mess up the country and take the blame, how long would it take for a Republican president elected in 2012 to undo the damage of a Hillary or Obama Presidency, not necessarily with a GOP majority in Congress? Could a future Congress repeal HillaryCare, or overturn the rulings of a 7-2 liberal SCOTUS, or rebuild an American city after an Iranian or Pakistani nuke blew it up, after Hillarama tried to make nice with them? A McCain Presidency might be a slow bleed (instead of a sharp lurch) to the left, but with the opportunity to save the patient four years later, especially if McCain retires in 2012 due to age, and passes the torch to a younger, more conservative VP.
Some posters here were deriding the Fox News poll as being skewed (it is, with a sample of 42% Democrats and 33% Republicans), but check out its internals: among Republican voters in the poll, McCain beats Clinton 86-7 and Obama 80-10, while Romney only beats Clinton 73-13 and Obama 63-21. According to this poll, McCain holds the Republican base much better than Romney does in the general election. Can we really afford a GOP candidate who loses more than a third of the votes of his own party against Barack Obama? Do we want to repeat the experience of Barry Goldwater in 1964 (despite the support of young Hillary Rodham), or go with a candidate who is within the margin of error of both Democrats in a poll whose sample is skewed toward Democrats?
Conservatives need to face facts right now. Due to past errors when Republicans had control of the Presidency and both houses of Congress, we're playing defense now, and a President McCain (with the veto pen) could limit the damage for four years until our team can get its act together and go back on offense. We can't afford to go home and forfeit the country to the Socialist Democrats by default, because it may be too late in 2012 to undo the damage. If McCain is the GOP nominee, hold your noses if necessary, but vote against Hillarama. America can't afford a President Hillarama.
On the other hand,he is a genuine fiscal conservative. it's not just his opposition to earmarks and pork barrel spending, but perhaps more importantly, he has long been an advocate of entitlement reform. He was early an ardent support of personal accounts for Social Security, and has pushed for serious Medicare reform, including means-testing. Almost alone among Republicans, he opposed the disastrous Medicare prescription drug benefit. And, he has offered the best and most conservative health care reform plan of any of the candidates. While Mitt Romney has embraced the basic tenants of HillaryCare.During his time in the Senate, he has never voted for a tax increase. While he has taken much heat for voting against the Bush tax cuts, he now calls for making those tax cuts permanent and has called for cutting business taxes and capital gains taxes. He has a 100% Right to Life voting record, and conservatives should love his positions on Iraq and foreign policy generally.
Compare this to Mitt Romney who has: 1) signed a health care law virtually identical to what Hillary has proposed; 2) supported the Medicare prescription drug benefit; 3) called for increased federal education spending, including having the federal government buy a laptop for every schoolkid in America; 4) supports increased farm price supports; 5) called for a $20 billion corporate welfare bailout of the auto industry; and 5) has shifted positions on a host of issues.
Now, i'm not suggesting anyone vote for McCain in the primary. But is he really so bad that Hillary or Obama is preferable? And, if any deviation from conservativism is unacceptable, why does Romney get a free pass?
No offense mean, but y'all aren't exactly quick, are you?
I hope she does campaign for Hillary. She can't get any conservatives to vote for Hillary and conservatives will be rid of her big mouth. Maybe even Shawn Hannity will quit having her disgracing his show.
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Will someone please explain to me why McCain isn't a re-hash of Bob Dole? A great U.S. military hero who ran one of the worst Presidential campaigns in U.S. history.
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If this woman came to you on the street and offered her "expert" advice on raising your child, you would probably tell her where to put her opinion. I suggest you do the same with her opinion on the election.
If all it takes to offer advice to a nation are Ann's qualifications, then I'll tell you that I am a licensed professional, with many years of experience working with state and local governments. I am a military officer, and have led troops in Afghanistan. I think my qualifications at least equal those of Ms. Coulter and I say that John McCain understands that a President must exhibit leadership over politics, must put his country's needs before his party's needs, and that these traits are exactly what we need to carry us through the next 4-8 years.
Ann's only interest is in selling books.
Look, Coulter is a very bright woman - VERY bright - so she knows her act plays right into the Left's caricature of conservatives, yet she does it anyway. Why? Because Ann getting attention is more important to her than advancing conservative ideas.
Clearly, the act pays well - but no one should confuse Coulter for a serious commentator.
First she wanted to outsource her thinking to the Democrats ("if the Democrats hate Romney that much, he MUST be the best one for us")... now she wants to campaign for the Democrats.
She's so far right she's officially circled around to the left.
Nothing to see hear. Move along.
Guliani was better ,Romney cannot be elected , as the press on both sides have killed him.
I really think that most Republicans were expecting Gulianni to to be the candidate , relaxed their guard and allowed the MSM to kill him off. Tough shit now you have to live with it.
Gulianni can probably bank on the senate seat in New York and reflect on Mc cain's massive defeat in November.
She goes after leftists just like *they* go after conservatives.
The bad thing about Coulter:
She goes after leftists *just* like they go after conservatives.
Heaven help us!
The worst thing that could happen to the conservative movement would be a McCain win. A win by Hillary or Obama against McCain would allow us four years of telling the RINOs that they should not have ignored us. A McCain win means we wove the white flag and surrendered. We would be abdicating all our core beliefs just to get a guy who claims to be a Republican in the White House.
With either a Hillary, Obama, or McCain victory, the outcome is the same - we surrender in Iraq, taxes get raised, illegals get amnesty, and liberals are appointed to the supreme court. The best course of action for conservatives is to vote "none of the above" if McCain wins the nomination. Stay home, turn of the TV, and realize we have 4 years of being under the target. Supporting Hillary is a bit too far but it does illustrate the absurdity of calling McCain either a conservative or a Republican.
Captain- I hope you reconsider your position on McCain. If he wins the nomination don't support him just because he has the (R) next to his name or you will destroy the party. Stay home and don't vote or write in someone else. Use your position to encourage other conservatives to stay home as well. If the party can't find a candidate that supports our core beliefs, let him run and get elected without us.
Better our nation suffer to the Republican party can rediscover itself? Are you people serious? You put the party before your country. The same country young men and women are fight in Iraq for? This is exactly how bin Laden and his ilk think, their movement over everything else. Well I for one will vote for the person I feel will do the best for our country, the country I love. I refuse to sit back and hope it fails in the hope it will strengthen my party. You people are just as sickening as Democrats that hope we lose in Iraq. Just like the people that are happy when our soldiers die, just so they can tally another mark on the dead list.
You people make me sick.
At least if Hillary or Obama wins then they will have to reveal their true beliefs to the voters if they want to do any harm. It's not anything that I want to find out if I can avoid it, but it might translate into instant rehabilitation for the sins of 2006.
Win or lose, I think McCain will destroy the Reagan coalition by using the GOP's primary system to bypass the base. He may even cause a walkout which destroys the party of Lincoln itself, much like the Whig party.
If he wins he will owe nothing to conservatives. He gives every appearance of a vindictive personality that will solidify his power by marginalizing conservatives by supplanting them with a coalition of moderates built around little more than a cult of personality peopled with the likes of Gov. Schwarzenegger (a phony), Giuliani, (a hero) and Lieberman. I wouldn't put it past him to exact revenge upon talk radio with an updated fairness doctrine that he could pass under the cover of the "R" next to his name. (Like Nixon going to China)
Let's make sure that Mitt emerges as the victor from a brokered convention and then we don't have to find out if McCain is just a more virulent form of the Kerry "electability" delusion.
As to your main point I live in Connecticut and I left the Democrats on August 9, 2006 because a party with no room for Senator Lieberman had no room for me. I didn't join the Republican Party to vote for a Democrat which McCain is. If McCain wins I doubt I'll bother even voting. Which is kind of funny because in every Presidential election but 1992 , when I voted for Perot, I have voted for a Republican.
Frankly, in a post-9/11 world, where the cost of four years of feckless Democrat leadership might be measured in the number of cities nuked by Muslim terrorists, I'm not ready to take that chance.
Better a poor Republican than a hardline socialist, cut-and-run Democrat!
This isn't the general election, folks. The primaries are the time to shake out the competition in order to get the candidate we can get behind.
John McCain is not a candidate who inspires my support or confidence. His friendships and political alliances demonstrate a kinship with the party across the aisle. He has never demonstrated the tenacity to rally behind conservative positions when expediency or comity with Democrats was his other choice.
Mike Huckabee is the Ross Perot spoiler in the McCain's competition against Romney.
McCain is vain enough to view his disastrous legislative initiatives co-sponsored with liberal Dems as a mandate about what the American public wants.
On the issue of Ann Coulter’s recent comments, may I point out a few things:
There were 4 days left between the show and Super Tuesday.
All the general public sees is McCain being group hugged by “me-too” GOP hangers-on.
The front-loaded nature of the primaries, the reliance of the media on polling data, the creepy alliance of McCain and Huckabee and changing demographics in the early states is making a mockery of our selection process.
Every MSM outlet gives fawning coverage of McCain, disseminating his lies and informing the yet-to-vote public that not only is he unstoppable in the primaries, but also the ONLY Repub who could beat the Dems in the general election (even though they will make mincemeat of him and any GOP congressional office seeker with the misfortune of being involved The Year of the Mole).
Even this blog has an entry today all but conceding a McCain victory three days before Super Tuesday. Sure it’s honest reporting, but…EEEeeeeeyyyooooooorrrrrrrrre.
Ann Coulter is fighting for the future of her party, the conservative movement and possibly the concept of a constitutionally limited republic. The only way she could even have a chance of waking up the sleepwalking public to the idea that there is serious opposition within the party to McCain’s nomination is to make herself the subject of water-cooler talk.
If enough people see that staunch conservatives may not be able to vote for McCain (and how is any republican going to win without conservatives, we barely won the last two with them) maybe people will say, “Well screw that…I don’t like him anyway, I’ll vote for Romney”, (who IMHO is really the only republican left who can win).
Can you imagine the upset, the turmoil. Can you imagine the groundswell we could get from defeating the media/establishment candidate against all odds. It would be better than beating the immigration reform bill…what was that called again?
On the subject of Ann Coulter generally, she has more stones than all the squishy half of the GOP combined. In fact, I think a case could be made that republican women are the real men of this party.
You think it’s fun to hold yourself up to derision in a PC culture that now requires you to go to rehab if you utter the wrong word in connection with one of their favored sub-groups, but are waiting for the day they can send you to jail for it?
Ann Coulter has done more to expose to the public the history, thinking and goals of the American Stalinist movement than anyone I can think of. I can’t wait to see what facet of neo-communism her next full-fledged book is about. And if her rant on Hannity and Colmes has the effect of causing enough people to resist the McCain/Huckabee axis that this race still has an honest man (if not a rock-ribbed conservative) in the running, I’ll buy her a brand new little-black-dress.
By the way, the term “jumped the shark” is somewhat, shall we say, passé. :-)
Without a doubt, it is time for a Conservative Independent Party (CIP), and the nominee should be Mitt Romney. I'm going to vote for him as a write-in for president regardless who the party machines get to run for the other two. McCain as president? WHAT A JOKE! The only thing worse would be a Democrat winning, but not by much. Join me with a Mitt Romney Write In!
There’s not much difference b/t him and the Dems anyway; therefore, regardless if McCain or Hillary/Obama win the election, we’ll still get the same disastrous liberal policies-- BUT, if it’s “President McCain”, public opinion/media would NEVER acknowledge that it's the LIBERAL policies destroying America, but instead REPUBLICAN McCain. Republicans will get all the blame… we’re talking about policies that’ll haunt the Rep party for eternity & going down in the history books! As Dr. Phil says, “You did/said it so now you OWN IT!”
Now think about this… We’ll still be subjected to socialist policies, I’d rather the Democrat party "OWN" what will ultimately ruin America! We already know that McCain is a turncoat who did everything in his power to sabotage the Rep party by teaming with Dems on numerous occasions, as he smirks knowingly while literally making our majority status irrelevant.
I agree 110% with Ann's following statement:
"At least under President Hillary, Republicans in Congress would know that they're supposed to fight back. When President McCain proposes the same ideas -- tax hikes, liberal judges and Social Security for illegals -- Republicans in Congress will support "our" president -- just as they supported, if only briefly, Bush's great ideas on amnesty and Harriet Miers."
With all due respect, do you think it's logical for the Republican party to have their stamp all over McCain's liberal policies? No, that's not logical.... Democrats own liberal idiocy, let them stamp their own party's name on the socialist agenda that will be responsible for our downfall.
The joke's provocation - which conservatives have a duty to spell out - is its pointing out the harm done to language and our public, national discourse by allowing people to hide their bigotry behind bland mea culpa's (such as Isaiah Washington's "I need rehab"). Ann's joke wasn't pure, but it was powerful.
Whether Ann hates gay people is ambiguous. Whether she hates people who hate gay people is ambiguous. But whether she hates people who shirk accepting moral responsibility for their bigotry is clear. Rather, it's clear that she hates liberals who shirk that responsibility.
Last year I energetically defended Ann regarding her "faggot" joke. Out of respect for your concerns regarding it, I'll insist that criticism of it be qualified (as I offered above).
From my post last of last March 7: "Oh, and I was going to have a few comments about the other Democratic presidential candidate, Ms. Rodham Clinton, but it turns out that under a Hillary Administration you could be audited by the IRS if you use the word 'dyke.' "
I'm one of those people Romney thinks is supporting McCain because I am looking for a true conservative who has not wavered on the issues that matter to me. I hope McCain doesn't win, but if he does, it is only because Romney didn't bail after he lost in Iowa and New Hampshire. Seems a vote for Romney is a vote for McCain, and apparantly now a vote for Ann Coulter to take her rightful place as HillBillary's campaign press secretary.
Good on ya, Ed. I wish you were on the Huckabee team, but at least you're calling it the way you see it on this one. Ann Rodham Coulter did more than jump the shark... she's jumped the track right under the "Straight Talk" Express. Must be Moon Sickness.
The logic is faulty, but it's still a hell of a lot better than most arguments in the blogosphere (this site included). The logic breaks down in two places in my opinion. First, there are more important issues than the war. The war is about survival, and that's important. But more important than survival is virtue: no ethical person would suggest that it is better to be bad and alive, than good and dead. Therefore issues such as abortion, euthanasia, etc are more important than the war, since they are about our willingness to murder innocent people in order to get what we want. The war is only about whether we live or die. Small beans by comparison. McCain may not be very solid on issues such as abortion, but he's a lot better than Hillary ever will be. With him there is at least a possibility of good judge appointments and possibly even support for legislation that would limit abortion. With Hillary: none. Of course, any other Republican candidate would be preferable in this regard.
The other fault in her logic is that a President must be a leader of character. Hillary has none. Zero. McCain has shown dishonesty, but has also shown courage, love of country, and a willingness to stand on principle (even if the principle is sometimes wrong-headed). Again, the other Republican candidates are better but versus Hillary ... (FBI files on political opponents...intimidation of Bill's cast-off girlfriends...Whitewater...Sandy Berger...) it's clear that McCain is less certain to be abysmal.
The part of her argument that strikes me as strongest is the second, that at least we can fight Hillary directly since she won't be a Republican, and possibly recover four years later with another president. Perhaps, and so one might be justified in not voting for either. But one certainly shouldn't vote or campaign for Hillary if one cares about ethics and leadership.
Of corse they still won't get it and that's what the bill of rights original intent was for in the first place.
But since when has politics by tantrum been anything new?
O-MITTUARIES? When Jim Geraghty at NRO is saying things like that and the WSJ is throwing Mitt under the bus, Mitt has to know he is in deep trouble.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/200...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120182471883733...
I agree with you Ed, Ann jumped the shark with the Edwards comment. It was not even funny, just done to create a head line. Ann does not have core convictions other than promoting Ann book sales and appearance fees.
None of what my family has personally gone through compares to what this 9-year-old boy went through: Jordin Paulder, playing with his little brother, got an ax put into his head for trying to be helpful by somebody who had no business being in this country.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/paulder.htm
1) We're still at war in Iraq. I'd rather have a decorated war hero in the driver's seat than a man who has no experience or a woman whose husband's administration bugged out of Somalia. I'm afraid of 1975 all over again .. we're winning to some extent, then we pull the plug and watch the baby die. Helicopters off the roofs. Watch our friends and allies ...... get slaughtered AGAIN while we refuse to lift a finger to help the people who were foolish enough to trust us.
2) IIRC, Mccain's prolife bonafides are greater than either O or H.
3) We're going into a recession perhaps, and I don't want someone in charge who wants to 'end financial inequality', to quote John Edwards. Unequal effort should not result in equal outcomes. That's been tried in a number of countries. It did not work.
Respectfully,
Brian P.
Thirty-plus years of a liberal court? DO THAT MATH .....and get back to me.
For three years or longer the Chamber of Commerce wing of the G.O.P. has attempted to jam a pro-asbortiom, pro-queer agenda & anti-gun anti-Christian draft dodger down the throats of social conservatives. It's an attempt that is failing & will in the end fail.
Nor did Romney gain much admiration from the nation's 24 million veterans, most of whom lean Right in their politics, by equating his son taking a vacation trip abroad with service to the natiuon in the armed forces.
I've been a big listener of Talk Radio -but I think their McCain Derangement Syndrome is going to lose them a lot of listeners.
"Ann this is Captain Ed of the Captain's Quarters, a respected blogger with a flair for conservative ideas."
"Captain, this is Ann Coulter, media whore and prostitute".
He is:
Pro-life
In favor of making the Bush tax cuts permanent (no matter what his position once was)
In favor repealing the AMT
Will appoint conservative judges like Roberts and Alito, notwithstanding the inaccurate hit pieces by Novak and Fund and exposed today by Byron York at NRO (confirmed by his endorsement today by Ted Olson)
Wants free market forces in health care
Was right on the surge and is strong on defense
I know he hasn't been perfect in the past, and he's not my ideal candidate, but come on. We criticize liberals for Bush Derangement Syndrome, but are now just as bad with McCain Derangement Syndrome. Take a deep breath, step back and look at what he plans to do. Quite a contrast with Billary/Obama. If he's the nominee, sign me up.
I agree that liberalism is dangerous -- all the more reason we should be holding our conservative leaders to a higher standard than "dance our ideological tune during elections, and we don't give a crap how bad you screw things up." If Hillary ends up as President, and/or McCain ends up the nominee, then who is to blame? We are. It's not enough to point out that liberalism is bad. We have make conservatism good. We have to make it work. Because right now, too many Americans out there are saying, "Well, you had your shot, and you blew it. Time to try something new."
If we had directed this kind of conservative passion towards Bush, Cheney, Frist, and Hastert to cut spending, maybe we wouldn't be in this boat. If we had directed this kind of passion into war management, maybe it wouldn't have taken a Republican wipe-out in 2006 to set the stage for the surge. Everyone forgets who the Republicans had to trot out in New York in 2004 to save the day: McCain, Swarzenegger, Guliani and Zell Miller, centrists all. And then we wake up in 2008 and wonder where they came from.
I have seen the excuses for every example I cited above and a hundred more examples I didn't bother to mention. I am sick of the excuses. I am sick of hearing about the liberal media.
If you want to make a difference, look in the mirror, take a deep breath, and start over -- with McCain if it comes to that. If you prefer excuses and to play the victim, keep tuning into Ms. Coulter.
The choice is yours, and it has little to do at this point with Romney or McCain.
I have defended her and read her and listened to her for the last time.
I know of plenty of other really hot conservative babes, and since she is no longer conservative, sane or young, I do not need her for anything much at all.
I am thinking a book return drive and boycott is in order.
She is ripe, she is over, she is skank.
If I was to rate the candidates from most to least conservative, here's how I would rate them
Most Conserative: Mike Huckabee. He is and has always been consistently pro-life on abortion & embryonic stem cells. He also unequivally supports traditional marriage, and making sure it stays that way. Unlike a Limbaugh conservative, Huckabee favours the small entrepreneur and the workingman over the corporate elites.
Second Most Conservative: John McCain. Supports the right to life, and traditional marriage. Advocates fiscal responsibility. I agree that tax cuts not accompanied by commensurate spending cuts are not a good idea, though I'd still want the tax cuts!
Least conservative Mitt Romney: As governor of a state, while he had a chance to make a difference, yet chose not to and took it upon himself to change the definition of marriage in his state. Even Howad Dean didn't have the audacity to bring in Same Sex marriage in VT. he stopped at Civil Unions. As governor, Always supported pro-abortion legislation . Ran a moderately fiscally conservative government.
I could very easily have described Bill Clinton here... wait! I forgot! Bill Clinton signed the DOMA (defense of marraige Act).
I guess that makes Bill Clinton more conservative than Romney.
Romney may say now that he realizes the error of his ways, yet he still fails to project any real conviction about his newfound pro-life views, and expresses no real regret over what he did to marriage. We welcome converts to the cause, but like Simon the Sorceror in the Book of Acts, it seems that his conviction only runs as deep as it profits him insofar as advancing his goals is concerned.
I want to like him, I want to believe him, But I can't. I would trust Rudy Giuliani more. At least you know where he stood, and his promise of appointing only strict constructionist judges is more believable than Mitt.
I believe that part of being a true conservative is being socially conservative.
The Proof? It's pretty obvious that he's not going to win the nomination, yet he's still pumping money into his campaign. I supose you could think it is a way to prime the pump for 2012, but so much can change between now and then that I can't imagine even a moderately successful businessman would consider that a good investment, much less one as accomplished as Romney.
So why is he spending so much of his own money? Probably to make sure that the conservative positions you think he doesn't really believe in actually get debated. Romney's constant pressure has forced McCain to publicly take some positions (e.g. secure the borders first) that McCain would never have taken otherwise.
And you're wrong on Romney. He vetoed the gay marriage act the legislature tried to ram down MA's throat, not exactly a popular act with the local media.
Conservatism is an attitude, a way of looking at the civil social order. It is more akin to the Greek notion of a paidea. Mr. McCain has not a conservative instinct in his body. But I fear most "conservatives" don't know what it means to be a conservative.
Mitt just doesn't have the appeal, because he seems to say what he tthiks people want to hear, and it doesn't ring authentic.