I wonder if we will see even more desperate attacks on Obama from Hillary now?
The Clinton machine seems rather ...rusty...
gaffo
· 1 year ago
"Even worse, Hillary finished in third place, behind Edwards, after working the state hard for the past three weeks."
Even better, Hillary.........you mean.
SWEET!! third place!
good to see that fake pandering Romney lose to anyone else too.
MikeA
· 1 year ago
Hey Capt., did you forget the photo caption contest?
TerryGain
· 1 year ago
Watch for the revelation of Obama's 1st grade essays.
Jeff
· 1 year ago
I like your line about Hillary trailing "a stagnating John Edwards.' Brilliantly illustrates just how weak and unappealing she is.
JonPrichard
· 1 year ago
Winning has a way of coalescing people toward a campaign. Obama's win is basically a rout and a repudiation of all things Clinton. A number of pundits talk about how Dukakis and Reagan finished third in Iowa but still won their party's nomination. The problem with the analysis is that Hillary was the overwhelming prohibitive favorite just a month ago...SHE is the machine politician on the Democrat side.
Perhaps the machine will now rise up and crush Obama but I don't think he's a Gary Heart. Yes Hillary has tons of money but so does Obama. This train wreck should be fun to watch over the coming months.
jag
· 1 year ago
The most up-to-date polls showed that Obama was likely to win Iowa, so it does not come as a major surprise. Nor does it spell defeat for Hillary. Although she campaigned hard in Iowa for the last three weeks, she came to the state late in the game. It is clear from the caucus results that Iowans are looking for change in what they see as "politics as usual." Obama (and Huckabee) might offer a fresh start (all one must do is "believe." ... note how often both Huckabee and Obama use that word), but does he really offer anything substantially different than Clinton? Really, where is his departure from "Clintonian" politics? He may have voiced his opposition to war prior to being a Senator, but since entering the Senate, his record has virtually mirrored Hillary's. And his plan for health care, the environment, and other major issues ... not that different than Hillary's. What distinguishes Hillary is that she has been around much longer than Obama and has the smarts, experience, and work ethic that it takes to effectively lead this country. New Hampshire will be the real test for Hillary. Will residents vote for candidates based on faith or works?
gaffo
· 1 year ago
Yes their voting records and issue positions are identical.
and yet you totally miss the point!!
between Obama and Billary is was a CHARACTER vote.
we actually like Obama the person and even might be willing to think he has good character.
whereas Billary has no character, no morals.
yes Obama has no experience - we know this and find that no experience and good character makes a better president than crapload of experience and bad character.
it really is THAT simple.
All Obama needs to do is nominate an experience VP and appoint expereince advisors and within a yr he'd be up to speed. They guy is smart and apears to have good judgement.
BTW - a man that has 30 yrs experience and POOR JUDGEMENT will ALWAYS make a worse Commander and Chief than one with no experience and GOOD INATE JUDGEMENT.
Experience can be overated - just look at how foolish Richardson (the supposed most experienced candidate) has sounded this past year. One dumb or nutty or incomprehensible statement after another!!
..............
..................RIP bidon ;-/. I'll miss ya!
onlineanalyst
· 1 year ago
"Obama (and Huckabee) might offer a fresh start (all one must do is "believe." ... note how often both Huckabee and Obama use that word)..."
Do we have to click our heels three times, too?
Math_Mage
· 1 year ago
Agreed right up until you said Hillary had the smarts, experience, work ethic, and good works to do well as President.
Smart, to attack Obama for his kindergarten essays? Experienced, as wife of experience for 8 years and barely a term in the Senate? Work ethic, like when she didn't bother to do her homework on Pakistan after Bhutto's assassination and proceeded to screw up everything she said on the subject? Good works, like the healthcare plan that went nowhere and...er...something else?
She has been around longer than Obama, true...but that doesn't mean she has experience or any of the above virtues.
chaking
· 1 year ago
Congratulations to Obama and Edwards, but especially Obama! =)
Teresa
· 1 year ago
Congratulations to Obama and Huckabee!
Norseman
· 1 year ago
Gloat while you can, folks. Hillary will NOT be denied.
okonkolo
· 1 year ago
Yes, Hillary will be denied. There was a record turnout for the Democrats. Obama is inspiring people to turn out, and will continue to do so.
Bennett
· 1 year ago
I'm not so sure Edwards is out of this. If Hillary loses badly in NH, I think we start looking at Obama vs. Edwards. Hillary does so poorly in comparison to Obama because he's everything she's not, photogenic and gracious and fresh. Edwards vs. Obama? Maybe Obama doesn't shine as bright?
In 2004, Edwards was the Barack Obama of the race. Now he's become the edgy, out there, scary kind of guy. If he can dial that back, get something a little more positive going maybe he gets a second look from people who were lining up behind Barack as a way to stop Hillary.
Just a thought.
AH_C
· 1 year ago
To take your thot to a logical conclusion, Hillary won't even get offered the VP slot by Obama. (Remember the buzz back on 04 at the DNC convention that Hillary was admiring Obama as her running mate? The nerve of that guy to spurn that chance and go for the job himself. Bwahaha) Nor would Richardson. So once again, we could see Breck Girl as the 2nd half of yet another run at the WH.
Bennett
· 1 year ago
I don't see that happening. What I think we don't know yet is how much of Barack's support is more anti-Hillary than pro-Obama. And if she's out early enough then maybe it gives Edwards a chance to appeal more broadly to people on the Dem side.
But I can't imagine Barack picking Edwards. I think he would probably have to go South yes, but not Edwards. Maybe the governor of North Carolina, Mike Easley, he might be someone to consider.
biwah
· 1 year ago
we don't know yet is how much of Barack's support is more anti-Hillary than pro-Obama.
Actually we have the closest thing to an answer we could have on that question at this point. 240,000 people turned out in Iowa, first-timers going overwhelmingly for Obama. That shows a strong positive preference for Obama, not just Hillary aversion.
AH_C
· 1 year ago
Bennett, good point. Edwards is rather testy these days which makes him even less likely for consideration. Plus, he obviously won't win any Southern States on his own. Let's just hope that 2008 is the last we ever hear his name again.
mylegsareswollen
· 1 year ago
This woman needs to be crushed ASAP.
Her political destruction is a huge gain for the United States.
Clintonism has been a unmitigated disaster for our political system.
Gary
· 1 year ago
I think voters will migrate to Fred when it becomes apparent to all that the jig is up for Huck. McCain, Giuliani and Romney only appeal to Northeastern moderates in an area awash with Libs. Fred is the least offensive to most republicans and will win the nomination.
Daniel DiRito
· 1 year ago
To see a tongue-in-cheek review of the Iowa primary in pictures...link here:
I think Clinton is too reliant on the Democratic aristocracy at a time when the country (people of all political affiliations) is getting tired of partisan politics and political insiders.
Whoever wins '08 will be in a position to nominate at least one Supreme Court Justice. How potential candidates feel about this responsibility is a key factor in how I vote.
Typical liberal, Obama, thinks of the Constitution as a "living document." If these bozo Dems get in office, we can expect that the next 25 years will be full of Roe v Wade decisions. This is not just the next four years folks. This year's election will impact the next generation.
"As a scholar of constitutional law, Obama brings a unique perspective to the recent debate surrounding the correct approach to interpreting and applying the tenets of the Constitution. He frames his discussion of the Constitution with an account of his first weeks as a senator in Washington, during which time he became acquainted with many of the old-guard lawmakers who, he found, displayed a reverence for the Constitution that was often unmatched in their younger counterparts. One particularly troubling manifestation of this irreverence was the debate over the filibustering of President Bush’s judicial nominees, which Obama regarded as a low point in recent Congressional history. He positions himself as a lawmaker who recognizes the historical significance of the Constitution, but who feels it is a living document that must be applied flexibly in order to remain relevant in an ever-changing world."
wendy
· 1 year ago
I think the ticket will be Obama/Webb. Wonder what republicans will feel about that combo up against Huckabee/whoever? ;-)
All Comments
The Clinton machine seems rather ...rusty...
Even better, Hillary.........you mean.
SWEET!! third place!
good to see that fake pandering Romney lose to anyone else too.
Perhaps the machine will now rise up and crush Obama but I don't think he's a Gary Heart. Yes Hillary has tons of money but so does Obama. This train wreck should be fun to watch over the coming months.
and yet you totally miss the point!!
between Obama and Billary is was a CHARACTER vote.
we actually like Obama the person and even might be willing to think he has good character.
whereas Billary has no character, no morals.
yes Obama has no experience - we know this and find that no experience and good character makes a better president than crapload of experience and bad character.
it really is THAT simple.
All Obama needs to do is nominate an experience VP and appoint expereince advisors and within a yr he'd be up to speed. They guy is smart and apears to have good judgement.
BTW - a man that has 30 yrs experience and POOR JUDGEMENT will ALWAYS make a worse Commander and Chief than one with no experience and GOOD INATE JUDGEMENT.
Experience can be overated - just look at how foolish Richardson (the supposed most experienced candidate) has sounded this past year. One dumb or nutty or incomprehensible statement after another!!
..............
..................RIP bidon ;-/. I'll miss ya!
Do we have to click our heels three times, too?
Smart, to attack Obama for his kindergarten essays?
Experienced, as wife of experience for 8 years and barely a term in the Senate?
Work ethic, like when she didn't bother to do her homework on Pakistan after Bhutto's assassination and proceeded to screw up everything she said on the subject?
Good works, like the healthcare plan that went nowhere and...er...something else?
She has been around longer than Obama, true...but that doesn't mean she has experience or any of the above virtues.
In 2004, Edwards was the Barack Obama of the race. Now he's become the edgy, out there, scary kind of guy. If he can dial that back, get something a little more positive going maybe he gets a second look from people who were lining up behind Barack as a way to stop Hillary.
Just a thought.
But I can't imagine Barack picking Edwards. I think he would probably have to go South yes, but not Edwards. Maybe the governor of North Carolina, Mike Easley, he might be someone to consider.
Actually we have the closest thing to an answer we could have on that question at this point. 240,000 people turned out in Iowa, first-timers going overwhelmingly for Obama. That shows a strong positive preference for Obama, not just Hillary aversion.
Her political destruction is a huge gain for the United States.
Clintonism has been a unmitigated disaster for our political system.
www.thoughttheater.com
http://p-shift.blogspot.com/
Typical liberal, Obama, thinks of the Constitution as a "living document." If these bozo Dems get in office, we can expect that the next 25 years will be full of Roe v Wade decisions. This is not just the next four years folks. This year's election will impact the next generation.
Quote from
http://barackobama.wetpaint.com/page/The+Audaci...
"As a scholar of constitutional law, Obama brings a unique perspective to the recent debate surrounding the correct approach to interpreting and applying the tenets of the Constitution. He frames his discussion of the Constitution with an account of his first weeks as a senator in Washington, during which time he became acquainted with many of the old-guard lawmakers who, he found, displayed a reverence for the Constitution that was often unmatched in their younger counterparts. One particularly troubling manifestation of this irreverence was the debate over the filibustering of President Bush’s judicial nominees, which Obama regarded as a low point in recent Congressional history. He positions himself as a lawmaker who recognizes the historical significance of the Constitution, but who feels it is a living document that must be applied flexibly in order to remain relevant in an ever-changing world."