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Re: Myrtle Beach Debate: Who Won?

JimBob — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:22:42 -0000

Saw a quick summary of the debate on CNN this morning. They showed the Huckabee rebuttal but not Fred's smack-down. They are still trying to do the candidate shove. I think the MSM is afraid of Fred. He can be a lot of trouble for the democrats

Re: Myrtle Beach Debate: Who Won?

JimBob — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:13:16 -0000

Having read the comments section, I see a couple of things that keep coming back about Thompson. The first one is the McCain Feingold Campaign Finance Reform. Fred did vote for it. He has later come out and said that when he read it , it sounded reasonable. But in practice is really bad. The second one was that he has no substance, no ideas past humor. Just read his stands on EVERY issue at his web site. Last night he even stated on how similar McCain's tax plan was to his that he put out a few months ago.
If this is all people can come up with, don't waste any more time on anybody else. Fred is the man!

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cveal — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:36:01 -0000

I think its messed up how the they ask everyone one thing then when they got to Ron Paul they try and drill him about his followers beliefs on 911. Say what you want about Ron Paul but following the Constitution sounds pretty good to me.

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UncleAl — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:25:00 -0000

They seem to have disappeared for a few days now.

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UncleAl — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:20:32 -0000

I gave up on Red State a loooong time ago.

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UncleAl — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:08:00 -0000

Thanks, I needed an antidote for terrye's misinformation!

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UncleAl — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:07:05 -0000

Comparing a wall to keep illegal immigrants out to the Berlin wall is more than a little idiotic.

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herddog505 — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:52:24 -0000

Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you!

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Mark — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:59:21 -0000

It's nice to see the pundits and MSM finally picking up on Fred Thompson - the only true conservative in the Republican race. The four RINO's sounded too much like the Democrats they really are.
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Re: Myrtle Beach Debate: Who Won?

Yashmak — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:54:01 -0000

It's telling that none of the Paulians have come out to defend him today. I'm interested in seeing how they'll rationalize the audience's laughter at their candidate. They'll probably say it was a 'hit job' by Hume.

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MrLynn — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:27:45 -0000

Yes, thanks for pointing out that obvious gaffe on McCain's part. So the Federal government is going to use federal tax money to fund job-training programs--another government program, anyone? It's a typical liberal-congressman response to a problem. And since when are community-college training programs a Federal responsibility? I was yelling at the TV set at that point.

Clairsolt is exactly right. Private business creates jobs, not government.

/Mr Lynn

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Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:21:35 -0000

If Ronald Reagan were alive and coherent today, he would hang his head in shame at what his "amnesty" has done to our country. He gave a damn about America and Americans. Fred Thompson does too. And let's not forget that until the illegal alien marches demanding full citizenship while flying the mexican rag, most Americans didn't care or were oblivious to the issue of the illegal invasion. We can all thank the kennedy's and LBJ for the illegal alien mess we live with today as well as Reagan's amnesty; an amnesty which was meant to fix the problem, but as we are now seeing, amnesty doesn't work without border control and enforcing immigration laws. Fred Thompson has been the only candidate who seems to understand that. The rest of the group is just telling the voters what they think they want to hear. I wouldn't trust anyone except Thompson to follow through on his campaign promises.

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clairesolt — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:55:01 -0000

You can say that McCain came back at Romney on jobs with his stright talk claim, if you know as little about job creation as McCain obviously does. Community college training programs do not create jobs. Governors go out and attract companies, as Romney explained. Senators don't. They just fillibuster!

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keemo — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:39:59 -0000

I don't blame the MSM for the woes of the Republican party; I blame the "old school" Republicans (such as Trent Lott) for abandoning Republican principles while being wooed by the power and money that was laid before their feet.

I blame the MSM for being 99% Liberal; for failing to do the job they were given special privileges to do; for pushing an agenda rather than reporting the facts and letting the people decide; for fabricating stories; for fabricating documents..... I could go on & on monkei, but that would fall upon deaf ears if I have been reading your posts correctly.

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syn — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:24:27 -0000

Considering McCain has been campaigning for president since 1998 and he still makes Republican nervous about his principles (McCain's "Global Warming probably exists" meaning he would definately regulate/dictate both private and corporate lives becasue we're all God's children:)

while Fred Thompson campaigning since November 2007around two months with a clear, consistant history and message, it is ridiculous to say that Fred Thompson is lazy.

I do hope the Republican appartus is not willing to throw out a solid Big Tent Conservative who offers friendship to so many Americans for another Centrist politican such as McCain.

Good conservative principles are a terrible thing to waste.

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TheDoctorWhoCuresCancer — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:07:50 -0000

True, true.

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Monkei — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:07:46 -0000

The MSM and their bed partners the DNC desperately want Huckaberry or McCain as the opposing nominee

and yet it is the GOP voters in Iowa and New Hampshire who voted for these guys in the initial primaries. If these guys get the GOP nomination it will be due to the GOP primary voters, but you can blame the MSM for all the woes of the republican party.

Re: Myrtle Beach Debate: Who Won?

Monkei — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:05:29 -0000

Fred did all right last night ... but do we really want a president who sleeps 5 weeks and is up 1 or 2 days and then goes back to sleep ... or one that obviously was missing his bran last night.

He should have ran for President 20 years ago when he was physically able.

Re: Myrtle Beach Debate: Who Won?

TheDoctorWhoCuresCancer — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:49:47 -0000

If Fred's performance translates into an uptick on donations it helps him a lot.

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TheDoctorWhoCuresCancer — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:48:07 -0000

Hugh Hewitt?

LOL

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olddeadmeat — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:42:44 -0000

I like your suggestion, it fits pretty well, and by not pressing him, Fox left more time for more important matters.

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TheDoctorWhoCuresCancer — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:40:43 -0000

Fred is a fine ACTOR, who can do quite well with a script,

Fred was a district attorney who put a governor behind bars! Was he reading a script when he did that?

Fred doesn't act...he gets type cast as the authority figure. Hollywood has a lot of actors to choose from, but Fred gets the part because he IS the part.

Re: Myrtle Beach Debate: Who Won?

keemo — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:39:02 -0000

From Hugh Hewitt:

The huge loser tonight was Mike Huckabee, thanks largely to Fred and Chris Wallace who peeled the bark off of Huck's ideology. Huck bristled at Wallace at one point, and when pushed on why he raised taxes and spending, barked back, "I raised expectations." That might work with Democrats --though it probably doesn't in this day and age-- but it sure doesn't work with Republican voters. Huck's whining about the religion question was also off-putting coming from a candidate who has so often injected religion into this campaign.

Mitt, Fred and Rudy have generally done well in these settings since they began at the Reagan Library last year, McCain wasn't a factor until recently and he has struggled to get through them, and while Huckabee used the early debates to charm folks, his performance has plummeted as focus on his record has increased. There's a huge message in the last three debates about the issue differences between the candidates on taxes and immigration, with Giuliani, Romney and Thompson on one side and Huckabee and McCain on the other side. And there's a message about who can win these contests in the fall, and it isn't Senator McCain or Governor Huckabee.

The MSM and their bed partners the DNC desperately want Huckaberry or McCain as the opposing nominee. Good reason for that, as the Democrat nominee stands the best chance of winning the general election against either one of these men. Hillary stands no chance of winning against Rudy; Mitt seems to be the one they fear the most. Fred hasn't come up on the radar screen as of yet, but he may have done so with his performance of last night.

When Santorum says that "we’re looking at the media trying to make Barack Obama the president, and make John McCain the shill for him," and "I think they know that John McCain can’t win this election," he is exactly on target.

When Santorum says of McCain that on "the environment, he’s absolutely terrible. He buys into the complete left wing environmentalist movement in this country," he is speaking from Republican Caucus experience.

When Santorum says that about the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill that "John McCain was the guy who was working with Ted Kennedy to drive it down our throats, and lectured us repeatedly about how xenophobic we were, lectured us, us being the Republican conference, about how wrong we were on this, how we were on the wrong side of history," he was there, heard those lectures.

When Michael Gerson says that "I think the main policy problem John McCain has is that I don’t think there’s much evidence that he’s a convert on the pro-growth economic philosophy," and adds that "[w]hen he opposed the Bush tax cuts, it wasn’t just that there was not offsets, and not sufficient cuts," remember that Gerson was at George W. Bush's side through those battles. Gerson remembers that McCain "used our class warfare arguments, 'It’ll only benefit the top 1%' and other things," and concluded "I don’t think he buys the kind of supply side ideology that has really determined American economic policies the last 25 years, particularly under both Reagan and the current President Bush."

Re: Myrtle Beach Debate: Who Won?

TheDoctorWhoCuresCancer — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:34:26 -0000

"Fred is cool, but again lacked basis and content. He jokes well for example, but doesn't provide a substantial offering after the fine humor."

Huh? Actually Fred is the most substantive candidate of them all. It was no joke when he crushed Huck last night, delineating the differences between them.

Fred also has detailed his platform in writing. That's no joke either, but it is basis and content.

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hikerwoman — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:20:09 -0000

I thought Fred was outstanding. Mitt & Rudy both held up just fine, with Mitt looking like the best spokesperson. Fred just crushed Huckabee followed by Chris pointing out that taxes were raised consistently with Huckabee at the helm, and then Huckabee explained why the taxes were raised "mostly for government handout programs". John looked to me like he has the same speech problem as Bush, can't quite articulate the message without looking foolish. Ron Paul is just simply nothing more than a complete nutter. Ron never looked more foolish than his performance last night.

I think theh clear winner was Fred. Mitt had one weak moment, but stayed on message and looked very presidential. Rudy looked good, did not harm himself.

The biggest loser last night; Mike Huckabee was exposed... No doubt about that.