Paul has really sold his soul as part of this campaign.
In theory he is a libertarian with conservative tendencies, in fact he has pretty much focused on the standard leftist criticism of the WoT with bouts of borderline trooferism and anti-semitism thrown in.
Perhaps Paul thinks he is taking his leftist support base for a ride, but I think when he finally throws in the towel he will find he has lost more then an election...
The real question is... why does this surprise you, Ed?
MarkJ
· 2 years ago
Another cunning move by "Old-Man-Afraid-of-His-Donations."
Ron Paul could have taken the easy path: he could have accepted the money and then donated it to a worthy charity, say, the United Negro College Fund. "Stormfront Dude" would be out $500, a charitable cause gets a financial boost, and Paul comes out smelling like a rose.
But noooooooooooooooo........
unclesmrgol
· 2 years ago
Huh -- taking money from one racist organization and donating to another is coming out smelling like a rose? Don't you know that the UNCF administers the Bill and Milinda Gates Foundation scholarship program, and in that administration discriminates against anyone of pure European ancestry, regardless of income? I used to donate, but not any more.
NH
· 2 years ago
Why the hell should he donated to UNCF? He doesn't owe it or you a bloody thing!
Christoph
· 2 years ago
IF it surprises you. Your post doesn't make that clear. Perhaps this doesn't surprise you at all? Just like it doesn't surprise me. I should have made it clear I'm not accusing you of being surprised: I don't know one way or the other.
captained
· 2 years ago
Not surprised at all. What you see here is rhetorical modesty; the thing speaks for itself.
Christoph
· 2 years ago
Thanks, Ed, for clarifying. I thought about it after I posted my first comment; therefore, the second one. It's sad that Ron Paul doesn't distance himself from Stormfront and similar organizations, but, as you said, the thing speaks for itself.
Do you think Ron Paul's 2008 campaign fundraising is a worrisome trend, Larry? Perhaps even partially an unexpected reaction to the immigration debate, with legitimately racist supporters giving to his campaign in greater numbers, along with his apologists, for example, the woman who posted the Yahoo! Answers question I linked to above.
HNAV
· 2 years ago
well said CAPTAIN !
Karen in Michigan
· 2 years ago
However claimed that Ron Paul had good judgment? I figured out he didn't the first time he opened his mouth in the first debate.
TSUGambler
· 2 years ago
This reminds me vaguely of the donations that Bob Dole received from the Log Cabin Republicans in 1996, then returned... and did he reverse himself, and accept them again? I don't remember. I don't know what the parallel means, it just kind of struck me.
SwabJockey05
· 2 years ago
CE. You're right of course (and as usual...since being the Skipper, you are handsome and powerful). RPaul should give back the money, or maybe donate it to the charity that Hildabeast supposedly contributed her tainted money to....(she has given it up, hasn't she...?).
But can you really compare the skin head's money to "drug money" or "mafia money" or "extortion money"? Those activities are illegal...I don’t think it’s illegal to be a skinhead.
Christoph
· 2 years ago
Maybe Ron Paul can be driven from the race (fat chance with all his money) and his support can be driven back to the Democrats where it belongs.
Norseman
· 2 years ago
This is just a Democrat diversion. Let's get back to the important topics. Is the baby really John Edwards' love child? Is Obama really a Muslim and/or a drug dealer?
Inquiring minds want to know!
T.K.
· 2 years ago
RIGHT ON!
CaptDMO
· 2 years ago
Other than fulfilling a Presidential duty to ALL American citizens, what "special" considerations are a US$500 contribution expected to buy for an American taxpayer supporting the kind of reform Dr. Paul espouses? At what point of "discovery" do such donations become ...unstable? When did Dr. Paul speak for, endorsae, or coddle, ANY "supremacist" group? Is THAT the problem? Is Don Black politicly inexpedient?
How about ...say...The Chinese? What of convicted criminals desperately needing a pardon? What about OXFAM? Are such groups in dire passion for "special exception" exempt from scrutiny? How about Black Legislator or Black Lawyers groups? Are they to be snubbed? Are their motives and integrity to be acceptable until um....discovered? What say those that openly aim to cancel the Constitution are denied access? Can The Brady Bunch have their champions derided for representing their cash?
Jeeze, try for some higher hanging fruit. Generally, such effort is bestowed a sweeter reward.
acm
· 2 years ago
Paultards seem to be quickly and easily identifiable by their dramatic use of the "Caps Lock" key. I've been waiting for just one of them to break the mold, but to no avail.
Christoph
· 2 years ago
Ron Paul has made arguably racist and anti-Semitic statements himself, including in his own newsletter, signed and approved by him. He later claimed it was written by a ghost writer and he held no responsibility for it. Shall I just say I find his explanation unconvincing?
See my two links above for more.
Likkerish
· 2 years ago
Christoph, why not consider the tried and true methods of empirical data collection and inductive logic. One black sheep does justify the conclusion that all sheep are black. If you study Paul's positions and his 20 year voting record in Congress, you will find nothing to support your lone observation. Your kind of comments reflect nothing more than opinionated blathering that serves only to convince you that you know what you are talking about. Give it a rest and do some serious research with an open mind, if possible, instead of one that has snapped shut like a bear trap.
onlineanalyst
· 2 years ago
It would probably be an eye-opener to learn the source of his other campaign contributions, as well.
warren
· 2 years ago
I donate to Ron Paul because I'm sick of political "spin", which is what this is all about anyway.
kecker
· 2 years ago
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BoWowBoy
· 2 years ago
Captain ............. a big wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .....................He can do whatever he wants with the money.
captained
· 2 years ago
Who said he couldn't? We're judging what he's doing with it, and what it says about him. No one's talking about confiscating it.
hunter_123
· 2 years ago
paul is cheap entertainment in this campaign.
John
· 2 years ago
Why should campaigns vet the people that legally donate money to their campaign? Illegal donations, or donations clearly begotten from illegal means (e.g. from a known mobster) are one thing. But there is no allegation here that the money Black donated is in anyway illegal or the result of illegal activities.
The notion that Paul should return the money seems easy to defend in this case. What if the donor was not openly a member of a radical group, but allegations were made to that effect? Should people be allowed to scour for donors and find people who are in some way objectionable, when no illegality is involved?
Paul is seen, rightly, as a "protest" candidate and as a result he has a motley crew of supporters. But it strikes me as anti-democratic and, at least, a waste of time to assess the ideological views of legal campaign donors. There are thousands of people on both sides with radical views that don't openly belong to an extremist organization... should we start lie detector tests to find them out?
captained
· 2 years ago
Nobody asked him to vet his donors. Someone else found the information, and as I wrote, no one's claiming Paul solicited the donation. Once it's pointed out to the campaign, however, what he does with the money demonstrates his priorities. Obviously the money means more to him than rejecting white supremacists as a part of his coalition. That tells me something about Ron Paul.
Jacob
· 2 years ago
How about when Hillary sent back the Illegal cotnributions with a letter for them to contribute again? Or how about when Hillary gave illegal immigrants in China town money to donate? or How about Mitt Romney and his illegal donations? or Self-Contributions, you know someone writign a huge check to themselves tells me? they don't have a good stance and aren't a popular figure? You know what Ron Paul stands for Freedom and the Constitution he has 30 years of history to back up every stance And he stated on Glenn Beck his stance on violence, and truthers, and his "fringe" supporters. I am an American dang it, and I will not let you, Ed, smear, me, a God Fearing, America Loving patriot for supporting Ron Paul. You're the Bigot for giving this schmuck so much publicity, it's, one, contribution out of roughly 400,000 Ron Paul has received, over 150,000 between two days 1/2 of which were New Contributers each day. Instead of focusing on one Bigot and perpetuating his website, and his ideas, why don't you focus on the issue? Why are YOU not voting for Ron Paul? is it his stance on Abortion? Foreign Policy? or His extremely sound Fiscal ideas?
Truth is, he is the ONLY Republican to stand on his principles, and has SOLID history of over 30 years to back it up.
My main concern isn't that a candidate would use money from dirty individuals. It is that a candidate, upon winning, would turn around and pay that money back with favors. For all of Paul's many faults, I respect him for that out of all the candidates, he is one least intent into becoming president for personal gain...he's the least likely to abuse that power with quid pro quo. Hell, he barely does anything for his constitutents as it is.
I personally would return the donation, but I'm not ready to label Paul a neo-Nazi for merely accepting an unsolicited donation...as long as he doesn't offer anything in return. Keep up the investigative work, Cap'n.
nichevo
· 2 years ago
Your stupid new software ate my comment.
1) Screw Gaffo. The next thing he learns about Judaism will be the first. 2) Ronald Reagan took money from the John Birch Society and when challenged, said "The fact that they endorse me doesn't mean I endorse them." If Paul had the brains, memory or friends to dredge that one up he could have defused it in a sentence. Apparently either he lacks the aforementioned resources, or he despises Ronald Reagan and would not stoop to recycling his wisdom. 3) Screw Gaffo and the horse he rode in on. No, scratch the horse - nobody should have to take sloppy seconds after Gaffo. 4) Apologize to host and community for appropriate and necessary, but unusual vulgarity.
Jacob
· 2 years ago
He has distanced himself I'd encourage you to watch his interview on Glenn Beck. He has stated on many interviews when about THREE Months ago this story "Broke" that he doesn't endorse them. Research, Research, Research
Jazz
· 2 years ago
I have to wonder, with the race in such turmoil... Ron Paul isn't going to get the nomination. He won't win in a single state. He's already ruled out an independent run absent the nomintion.
Why is everyone still covering him?
mickey mouse
· 2 years ago
I think Big Oil, Business, China and illegal aliens would make me react more negatively than from this fellows bank account. Look what happen to our country. The White Supremacists' didn't have a hand in it so get off of your high horses.......We want our rights , freedoms and jobs back and if this $500.oo helps then so be it...
quickjustice
· 2 years ago
LGF has posted links to troubling stories about Paul's connections to truthers and white supremacists. Apparently, he has no compunction about appearing before these groups, and speaking to them. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=2...
Like it or not, his character has become an issue. Is he sympathetic to truthers and neo-Nazis, or not?
Jacob
· 2 years ago
DID YOU WATCH GLENN BECK! holy crap you people are driving me insane, if you're going to blog, blog intelligently and be informed. He has distanced himself more than most from their troubled donors. How about we write an enormous blog about how Mitt Romney gives people money to donate? or Hillary accepts donations from illegal immigrants in China Town?
NO! instead lets give a White Supremecists the spot light and attempt to smear a man's supporters cause we can't attack him on the issue. Please this blog is pathetic, as well as it's uninformed contributers. I can't believe people...
And yes, I support Ron Paul, and No I Don't Hate Black People, and Nor Do I believe the Twin Towers were brought down by the U.S. Government I do believe in Freedom --- and the U.S. Constitution, Non-Interventionism, and Money that means something.
quickjustice
· 2 years ago
I believe you, Jacob, when you say that you personally are not a truther or a racist. I also agree that the issues you think important are important. I think Ron Paul is a highly flawed vehicle for your beliefs because of his past associations with white supremacists and truthers. I'm not arguing that you should change your beliefs. I do think you need a candidate without Ron Paul's baggage to highlight your beliefs.
Jacobwb7
· 2 years ago
Well he's the only one with those beliefs in this field, not to mention the man's old I'd be happy to make through his career with the baggage he's accumulated. In comparison to some of the more recently elected politicians he's a saint. Thanks for your fair evaluation though.
UncleAl
· 2 years ago
So, your claim is that Ron Paul is no worse than Hillary? Yeah, that'll go over well with the Republican primary voters!
Jacob
· 2 years ago
No not at all, my claim is that this isn't news worthy. My claim is that the story should be about issues, which most of which do go over well with Republicans. Ron Paul is Pro-Life Pro-Balanced Budget Pro-Cutting/Eliminating most taxes, including the income tax Pro-Gun rights (endorsed by Gun Owners of America (2nd largest 2nd Amendment advocates) Pro-Small Government, including the elimination of wasteful departments Pro-Precious Metal Standard, which most people are for ----which do go well for Republicans, when faced with I can't decide Mitt Romney and I only became a Republican cause Democrats wouldn't hire me Rudy ---funny Rudy criticizes Hillary for appearing as social Democrat Presidential Candidates of the past, that he voted for in the past. Oh the ironies of life.
Ron Paul is a 10 term congressman with a history of consistency. I know where he stands.
Jed
· 2 years ago
What about donations to Giuliani or Romney from people who hate muslims and want to see the war against them continued? Both of those men would have to return a lot of money if you went through their donations and found the personal beliefs of all their donors.
Mr Black, whether you like his views or not, has the right to donate to a campaign. Afterall, he IS a US citizen and has the right to vote for whoever he wants. Just because he supports Ron Paul, doesn't mean Ron Paul supports him.
Unlike other candidates, who take money from questionable sources.. Ron Paul cannot be accused of taking the money like it's some sort of bribe to take on that persons beliefs or agenda. Ron Paul cannot be bought.
He should keep the money, and refuse to play the PC card. This is about Ron Paul, not about Mr Black's views.
G
· 2 years ago
He should donate it to the United Negro College Fund.
Jameth
· 2 years ago
What kind of money will Ron Paul refuse? I'm not from his official campaign but I don't think he would refuse much regardless of source unless it was obtained by illegal means. Since no one seems to take notice, Ron Paul hardly gets any solicitations from lobbyists in Washington. Why? Because they know that if they give him money to push a bill he won't do so because they gave him money. He will accept the money as a donation, but will continue to do as he has always done, defend our rights and the constitution.
Now, he has received some money from corporations from a site that track it, I wish i could find the link but he doesn't outright refuse the money. The people, corporations(few there are) and others will donate to him with full knowledge that it is just a charitable donation with no influence on the 72 year old candidate. If he is already fighting for your cause and you don't have to lobby to him to get him to work to your benefit, at least give him money to keep doing what he's been doing.
I don't by any means defend the views of Don Black, however, money is money, is money, is money. Unfortunately you need a lot of it to fight the political battles and if Mr. Black feels that Ron Paul is helping America and stands for ideals, even if they don't endorse his specifically, I say go for it. I don't know much about Mr. Black and I don't think not giving him his 500 back with hurt him much. If he gives the money back it is almost against Ron Paul's message. That would be telling Mr. Black that sorry, your practice of freedom is not as good as someone else's. Mr. Black just happens to wear his negative views on his sleeve and is proud of them. What about the people that donate money to campaigns and watch kiddy pron, commit violent acts against their family, sell/use illegal drugs? I mean, I'm sorry but everyone has their rights, and if they are exercising them in a bad manner then they will get the justice they deserve upon being caught or making a mistake.
hunter_123
· 2 years ago
Paul needs a serious primary challenger. This guy is ridiculous and so out of touch with manstream Americans as to be unrecognizable. He is nether left or right or wise or clever.
UncleAl
· 2 years ago
I used to think he was a sane libertarian. Then he started courting the "Truthers." He's discredited himself, and he's give libertarianism a black eye.
LeRoy
· 2 years ago
Paul NEEDS a serious primary challenger"?? What does that mean? Ron Paul IS a serious primary challenger. Paul is so out of touch that he's raking in contributions by the millions of dollars. Corporate interests and million dollar campaign contributions do not define mainstream America or have our best interests in mind. You should take a look at your core beliefs and let us all know who YOU support and the candidate that best represents your beliefs
laurelai
· 2 years ago
If he got a donation from Jesse or Al should he keep it?
DayTrader
· 2 years ago
That donation is only known because it was discovered in the filings at the end of last quarter with the FEC.
Right now I see three drawbacks with the existing system.
All candidates use software to submit their donations to the FEC and there really is no reason why they can't move the frequency up to monthly full reports with weekly updates.
Donations under $200 don't have to be reported at all.
There is no way to link which donations went through which bundler only via registered lobbiests.
Right now there is a lot of speculation that there is a bunch of Hillary/nutroots money being filtered to the Paul campaign just to keep the right side muddied up as much as they can manage. It is suspected that most of those donations are in the under 200 range so they can't be tracked back.
If you take a good look at a lot of the kids working as supporters of the Paul camp, you will see people who would be more at home over at the Kos kids zone or the DU than being associated with anything that has the word Republican attached to it.
He is simply being propped up to provide the appearance of a Republican party supported guy that the left side can simply point to and say "look how weird they are man , we gotta kick their butt".
Jacob
· 2 years ago
Yes, the Democrats have NOTHING better to spend their money on than Ron Paul and Republicans. Accept the facts, Ron Paul appeals to disenfranchised REPUBLICANS like myself. It's not a Democratic Conspiracy... You want to look at some Scandals, look at the connections between Mitt Romney and Black Water Security. Now there is a scandal. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071224/scahill
[quote]NN/YouTube debate, when Romney refused to call waterboarding torture, he said, "I'm not going to specify the specific means of what is and what is not torture so that the people that we capture will know what things we're able to do and what things we're not able to do. And I get that advice from Cofer Black, who is a person who was responsible for counterterrorism in the CIA for some thirty-five years."[/quote] Actually Cofer Black was in the CIA 28 years three of which were counter terrorism, but he is a head executive for Black Water, and that is why Black Water has a major vested interest to see Mitt Romney elected. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=83d_1197511033 What is Blackwater's Role in the 2008 Presidential Race? Part 1 of 2 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=38d_1197511537 What is Blackwater's Role in the 2008 Presidential Race? Part 2 of 2 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c6c_1197668932
I know I'm a "kook" and another Democratic "loon" or a I'm a Registered Republican since I was 17, and want an honest candidate, you do the research and decide.
onlineanalyst
· 2 years ago
Real Republicans looks askance at the tripe in The Nation. Day Trader has your number, pal, and all of the rest of you nutroots' sycophants.
RAJ656
· 2 years ago
Ed, the donation doesn't mean Ron Paul or his campane approves of the contributor. It's the contributor who approves of Ron Paul's message. Personally, I think they go together but then I could care less who gives money to Ron Paul.
bob
· 2 years ago
Why is a black supremist good but a white supremist bad
Grant
· 2 years ago
The underlying assumption that a political contribution is a form of quid pro quo is the most disturbing and disappointing aspect of this issue. If it were not the case, then any contribution, regardless of the source, would simply be seen as an endorsement of a candidate’s positions.
Brett
· 2 years ago
I can NOT see giving the money back to the hateful person who parted with it.....in my mind that position is idiotic.
The thing is, he is running for president with postiions, which should make it OBVIOUS to anyone who has taken the time to read about them, that run COMPLETELY COUNTER to the donors views. This guilt by association thing is absolutely crazy.
CaptainLawl
· 2 years ago
I hope he keeps it and uses it to bury the other candidates who sell fear and endless war as the American way of life.
onlineanalyst
· 2 years ago
Do you mean those who sell fear of and war against nebulous Global Warming?
How about against those who have been fighting the War on Poverty for fifty years (with no end in sight)?
Bud Reynolds
· 2 years ago
Five hundred dollars is a small amount of money for Mr. Paul to risk his image on. He should be offended by the donor, and sending the money back would be a big boost to his campaign, much more than he could obtain by keeping it. If he keeps the money, his integrity and sincerity will always be in doubt.
Jon Kirkpatrick
· 2 years ago
You are seriously stupid bud, no pun intended. Answer this question.
Why would a candidate give money back to a White Supremacist to promote evil?
Answer it. Now. Let's see how you think on your own.
LA Martin
· 2 years ago
is Obama returning or donating his donations from the NAACP to charity??
you people are fascists!
Andrew
· 2 years ago
"Perhaps even partially an unexpected reaction to the immigration debate, with legitimately racist supporters giving to his campaign in greater numbers"
If that was true, why did Tancredo only raise a few thousand dollars? Paul was considered less viable than even him up until a few months ago.
"Maybe Ron Paul can be driven from the race (fat chance with all his money) and his support can be driven back to the Democrats where it belongs."
For the record, I'm a conservative Republican who became disgusted with Bush's liberal spending, massive increase of the debt, nation-building, and open border policy. If it wasn't for Paul or a candidate like him, I wouldn't give the "ex"-leftist neocons who now run the party my vote.
"Ron Paul has made arguably racist and anti-Semitic statements himself, including in his own newsletter, signed and approved by him."
There's only that one newsletter, and yes his story is that someone else wrote it in a newsletter bearing his name. If you've ever worked in politics, especially at the legislative level, you'd know that it's common practice to have newsletters under your name with which you have nothing to do. Not saying it's a wise practice, but that's what it is.
Besides which, he has never said or done anything similar in this 30+ year political career. It stands out as way out-of-character, especially when you consider how anti-collectivist he is. It's odd to think he would suddenly become a racist for one newsletter after being in politics for years and while he was taking a break to return to his medical practice in Texas.
"In theory he is a libertarian with conservative tendencies, in fact he has pretty much focused on the standard leftist criticism of the WoT with bouts of borderline trooferism and anti-semitism thrown in."
As Ronald Reagan put it: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals -- if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
Really, Paul is an old school, traditional conservative. Barry Goldwater was more of a hawk than Paul is (although he was no neocon), but otherwise they share similar beliefs.
And his criticism of the War on Terror comes from the right, just as Pat Buchanan's does. Paleconservatives view our aggressive interventionism as being a significant contributing factor to violent anti-Americanism. It's a very logical, very real phenomenon called blowback. Check out the bipartisan 9/11 Commission Report for more on that.
J8ke
· 2 years ago
I'm of two minds on this issue. On one hand I feel that Mr. Paul should give the money to charity. That would certainly show his disdain for the group. On the other hand Mr. Paul has an arguable point, that by keeping the contribution and using it to further his campaign would be an ironic slap in the face to Don Black since Mr. Paul stands for equal rights for all. Either way, I'm a staunch supporter of Ron Paul and will continue to be.
Mark
· 2 years ago
So now money from people of questionable ideology is somehow "tainted"? Should we stop giving service at our businesses to white supremacists? And why is Ron Paul recieving the money any worse than a charity recieving it? You just pass the buck, but then the charity has to deal with the question about whether it is ethical to accept it. Ron Paul is promoting the exact opposite values with the money, and sticking to the real notion of free speech. Do people outside the mainline have no political rights? Casting this as "blood money" is just ridiculous. Money is money. It all goes into one pot.
Karin
· 2 years ago
He can take that money from something bad and put it toward something good, like turning this country around. He's not the first candidate to take $$$ from a less than questionable source, what's the big deal? I can't stand white supremicists, they are ignorant, low class idiots. But who is to say what Paul does with his donations? Paul is getting all this flack because he was honest about it. Much better than lying about it, which seems to be the MO for American presidents.
Dallas
· 2 years ago
This is sad. Of all the special interest money the front runners snatch up that end up compromising the well being of our country, you guys are going to take a moral stand against Ron Paul? Seriously? They guy has got to be one of the most squeaky clean candidates we've ever had run for office. It makes me sad that our nation seems satisfied with the status-quo and wants to be lead right down the crapper by the likes of Bush and Ghouliani and Clinton. It makes me feel ill. Good job, you guys are really on top of the issues. Thankfully, you'll vote a candidate to office that will not only protect me from the billions of terrorists sneaking into our porous borders, but also protect me from myself. I don't see any patriots here, only cowering hens. You are doing a disservice to your country.
Malum Prohibitum
· 2 years ago
The thing you race glasses wearing freedomphobes are missing here is that most politicians worry about where their money comes from because political donations buy access to and influence on most politicians. Paul has walked the same consistent path for 20 years regardless of who pays his bills, and hell keep walking that path no matter where his money comes from.
I dont care if Stalin himself rose from the grave and gave a billion dollars to Paul. Paul would still go on doing exactly what he does.. which is vote for the integrity of the constitution, regardless of who does or does not like it.
Jon Kirkpatrick
· 2 years ago
Listen all you ignorant people.
Let's see AOL put up a poll that says, "Do you think a candidate should give back the millions and millions of dollars in special interest money from the Military industrial complex, Media Industrial complex and the Medical industrial complex?"
Ron Paul is NOT giving the money back, because he doesn't believe in sending money back to someone who can use it to do bad, when he can use it to do GOOD.
You people are so brainwashed and rounded up like little cute sheep. Oh, and Oprah said jumping off cliffs is AMAZING, let's all go do it!
dave
· 2 years ago
jon, could not have said it better. sounds like your a savage listener.
Mark
· 2 years ago
I think your post is silly and engages in logical fallacy. I actually agree with Paul here and enjoy the the fact that he is not going to pander and set a precedent of screening donors. Anyone with a brain can read and comprehend Paul's message which is not, "White Pride Worldwide" but rather "Individual Liberty Worldwide."
All men are created equal = black people/natives/asains/etc.
John Heinrich
· 2 years ago
Ed, you're right on the money!
John
spliff
· 2 years ago
if they have the right to vote, they have the right to donate. for him to do anything besides accept the money would be spitting in the face of the donator, and losing a primary vote. like it or not, paul IS THE ONLY ONE standing up to allow people this sort of freedom. other people up to bat right now would have spent thousands in forming a committee to see what they should do with the money. Paul stands for the freedom of people, if you dont like it, go to china.
I dont agree with white supremacy, but I do agree with a persons right to choose to be like that. Most people are pretty stupid anyways. let the supremist hurt someone, then we have the ability to 'stifle their creativity'
preacher t
· 2 years ago
Son You are forgetting a very important thing here. Here in America White Supremacist have civil rights just as does everyone else. I disagree with your reasoning in that because Paul will keep the donation from the white supremacist that it makes him a racist against the American Negro.
It's small one sided thinking such as this, which create the problems we have today.
Dave Dockery
· 2 years ago
Good Lord....are the campaigns now responsible for checking all donations to make sure they come from upright true blue flag waving citizens? When campaigns take money from millions of contributors, one can only imagine the thousands of nasty-minded, puppy stealing, malcontents doling out their ill gotten gains to their favorite candidates..... Being a Ron Paul supporter, I can think of no better use of the tarnished $500.00 gift than to help elect the man who will champion the cause of freedom in this country...
John R
· 2 years ago
As a professed libertarian, Paul is making an extremely poor moral choice. The success of the libertarian creed rests with the individual, free of coercion, to make correct choices. In this case, he's failed that test miserably by freely choosing to accept money from a white supremacist. I would hope Paul supporters can see the moral bankrupcy of this choice and vent their criticism of Paul to force him to see the issue in that light.
Sean K
· 2 years ago
I'm sorry Ed Morrissey, but you've got your priorities upside down.
I don't see why you are making such a big fuss about this? I for one couldn't care less if one Neo-Nazi gave his campaign $500...and I'm JEWISH!
Ron Paul is clearly not a white supremacist. Actually, his message is the total opposite of that. His message is of peace and prosperity and if one screwball Neo-Nazi gave his campaign $500, that's $500 dollars less for that screwball to spend. I'm all for it.
I wish there was some way to take even more of his money away from him!!!!! The less money that Neo-Nazi has the better.
Plus, why should Ron Paul give that money back to him? Chances are his $500 were already spent on the campaign and now Ron Paul would have to take $500 that was donated by others to repay that white supremacist. Why should my money be given to that white supremacist?
What about all the other candidates who get millions upon millions of dollars from special interest groups? That should be the real question and I don't see you asking them...
People should question those politicians who get big money from all sorts of special interest groups and lobbyists. Those special interests have one goal in mind: to buy influence.
They know that by giving millions of dollars they will be owed "favors" if their candidate of choice happens to win the Presidency.
Fact: Ron Paul only receives campaign contributions from regular Americans and not from multinational corporations or lobbyists.
This story of $500 is ridiculous and people who fall for this silly story need to get their priorities straight.
Let's start worrying about the millions of dollars given by the special interests and not some measly $500 from one psychotic person. Let's keep things in perspective people.
Shanizzle
· 2 years ago
Ron Paul should keep the money primarily because he is up against the money-laundering established democrats and republicans who have a nearly limitless supply at their disposal. Why should Paul have to give up any funds when he already has a distinct disadvantage. The problem is not Ron Paul or where the money came from, the problem is the republicans and democrats who already OWN the election process.
Ross
· 2 years ago
Ron Paul's district runs very close to my home. I can assure you his district is not made up of skin heads or for that matter Black Panthers. Keep the money Paul and tell the guy he will not be invited to spend the night in the Lincoln bedroom as other presidents have done in return for donations to their cause. At least we know who contributed to Ron's campaign and where they stand on issues. It is all the other contributions which go un-noticed, which bother me. What do they want in return for the money? This guy is a flash in the pan and no one believe Ron will embrace his politics. My suggestion is to ask the guy to sell everything he owns, close out his bank accounts, max out his credit cards and give the money to Ron. The truth be told, I doubt anyone at the campaign HQ even knew where the money came from before the check was endorces and put in the bank. Now that they do................. keep it anyway and move on. RR
john
· 2 years ago
I thought Ron Paul was a racist anyways. So, why not keep the money? Like gives to like.
memphis cat
· 2 years ago
The last time I checked, everyone in the USA is "represented" by any elected official, irregardless of what you think of them. Goes for blacks, whites & all others. If you used this as an example, you should be just as upset with cynthia mckinney running for president, an absolute moron who conveniently changed parties when she lost for "drug induced type" rhetoric & foolish statements. It never changes. Just goes to show what "tater salad" has been saying, "there aint no pill for stupid, you can't change stupid."
Nick
· 2 years ago
Its a shame that we have to be so freaking politically correct that this is even an issue. So what if he gets a little money from some idiot that is a white lover. This shouldn't even make the news, we should be looking at things about the candidates that actually matter. I for one respect Ron Paul even more than before because he has the balls to do what he feels he should and not just pander to the people who think he should give it back. I think his explanation makes more sense than the explanation for giving it back. NOW LET'S FOR ONCE PAY ATTENTION TO SOMETHING THAT MATTERS AND NOT THIS IRRELEVANT DONATION.
Tim
· 2 years ago
You are a joke. I am an African-American that supports Ron Paul and the fact that this is even an issue is ridiculous. Why should he return the money if Don Black KNOWS that Ron Paul does not share his racist views. Black just likes Paul's views on border control and other things.
Jan Williams
· 2 years ago
Ron Paul has my vote!!!!!
Jefferson Davis
· 2 years ago
Go Ron Paul!!! Vote for Liberty and Freedom 2008!!!
sue
· 2 years ago
Maybe AOL or any big companies should start giving their money back when any of these supremacist ssubscribed to your company for services.
EME
· 2 years ago
Ron Paul should donate the cash to W's father's Willie Horton fund.
Milt
· 2 years ago
If Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton donate money to Obama's campaign, would you demand HE return the money as it came from two BLACK racists? How about Oprah, her promotion of Obama is obviously race driven. Don't you have a problem with that? Of course you don't because you think it's PC for blacks to be racists.
Jan Williams
· 2 years ago
Ah! If the money came from the sickening NAACP, it would be o.k. and he would be wonderful!
Jon
· 2 years ago
Don’t dog Ron Paul for this. Just because he knows who the money comes from doesn’t mean that he supports the donator. The donator supports Ron Paul. How many presidential candidates are getting countless contributions from people they don’t know? These people can be anyone. They can be drug dealers, serial killers, rapists, etc. You just don’t know. There is no doubt that Paul is not racist and will spend the money in a way that will not support a racist cause.
Josh
· 2 years ago
This is riduculous, if theres one thing that everybody should know about Ron Paul, if nothing else, is his belief in a FREE society. Hes said numerous time already that hes running for president so that he cant control our lives. He doesnt in any way, shape, or form endorse any of the same beliefs that the gentleman that sent the money to him does. Ron Paul should not be expected to return money that was sent to his campaign for the sole reason of spreading Ron Pauls messege. The man didnt send the money to try to change Ron Pauls way of thinking about his issues. The man sent the money just because he believes in what Dr. Paul has to say.
J-Reel
· 2 years ago
I'm African American and I support Ron Paul If someone wants to be dumb and try to spread there message of hate thats there business. But I want to live in a country where I'm aloud to express the way I feel and I think thats why the guy gave the money. Ron Paul represents Freedom everyone has the right to that. But I think I know how AOL and the media are going to try to spin this one so let me close it out with this. As a African American I'm not concern with a donations I'm more concern with big government I'm more concern with having my friends and family member fight a unjust war,more concerned about the thousands of incant black men in prison right now because of a unfair justice system and war on crack. I wouldn't be surprise if all this was set up to get people to stop joining the Ron Paul movement. Go Listen To My New Song Tittled ( So Hard) Myspace.com/odgjreel I'm currently working on a hip hop song for Ron Paul to wake up the African community.. Freedom will only come with Change
Freedom
· 2 years ago
We knew somebody was going to start attacking Ron Paul at some point. If you look at Paul's record and personal life he outshines all the others. We have a free society that is foever going out the window unless somone like Paul steps in and saves our Bill of Rights. People are such idiots to really think that Ron Paul took the money knowing who it came from and that it would in anyway influence him. If you value the Constitution the only hope would be Ron Paul. Our Constitution is all we have people! Stop being conditioned by the media and be a patriot and protect our Constitution before we all end up in a police state with thought police. The reality is we live in an oligarchy, Paul will attempt to change that.
Larry Fafarman
· 2 years ago
What the hell? I tried looking at the Stormfront website and AOL blocked my access on the basis that it is a "known spam solicitation site." That's censorship.
Bill
· 2 years ago
Hillary keeps hundreds of thousands in Hsu-money, other candidates takes thousands from god-knows-where and you're gonna kick sand over 500 bucks?
Please !
Brian
· 2 years ago
Many candidates have had White Supremisists donating to them. You just don't hear about it. This is ridiculus. There has probably been serial killers and rapists giving money to campaigns. So what. Ron isn't going to back the White Suprem's now and Ron is going to use the money for better purposes than the original owner, so what is the problem. By making this a large issue, the media has basically given White Suprem's a lot of media coverage. Is the media PROMOTING white suprem's now by giving them all of this free coverage?
Jim
· 2 years ago
Mixed emotions on this, because even though 99.9 % of theses supremists are morona, they still have a right to represented. I guess would a Sen Clinton or Obamma retrun a donation for a Black Panther? I doubt it. On the other hand if its that big of a deal, I guess Mr Paul should just send the money back to Sen Byrd
Scott
· 2 years ago
Everyone knows (like we know the world is flat) that Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance in Hell. So why are you giving him any publicity. Even the mainstream media won't report on this!
Michael
· 2 years ago
Ron Paul should expect the Jewish, neocon controlled media to come after him with false allegations... They see that he is making money and he wants to end their stranglehold on the nations money supply. Americans to put America first....Its time for America to stop putting the best interest of Israel first.
Michael
· 2 years ago
Ron Paul is the only candidate worth voting for. The others are corporate, MIP shills.
Virginia Ree
· 2 years ago
Let's see, all donors to all campaigns should be screened. How ridiculous. Why don't we look at the big corporate donors to campaigns and see what they stand for.... This is a moot discussion.
Chuck
· 2 years ago
To go through every donation and make sure it comes from some one who agrees with your stance is impossible. Why should he give back the money of one donor who has a racist website? If this man didn't have a web site there would be no way to know if he is a white supremacist and therefore his donation would be just like every one else's. Should we go through Rudy Giuliani or Hillary Clinton's donors and see if there is any donations from individuals who hire illegal immigrants? What gives us the right to stop any one from donating money no matter what their beliefs are.? Ron Paul doesn't agree with this man's politics, and neither do I, but to ask a candidate to refuse donations based on some one's beliefs is by itself un-American. We have the right in this country to believe and say whatever we want as long as we are not harming others and Ron Paul is the only candidate who will defend this right. There was a time in this country where if you spoke up for the rights of a black man you would be shunned from society. Thankfully it is no longer that way, but if those who fought for the freedom of African Americans weren't able to speak their voice because it was not the popular opinion we would still have segregrated schools and a society where your worth is judged by color and not by character. All voices must have the chance to be heard no matter how idiotic or controversial. If the voices aren't heard they will never change and our country will be worse than it already is.
Russ
· 2 years ago
Where did you get your information about Ron Paul being an anti semite? I am Jewish and know Ron Paul personally and have never heard a racist or anti semetic mark from him. Do you think any other candidates accept money from haters and racists - perfhaps some of Barack Obama supporters? .
Giovanni
· 2 years ago
I just tried to visit the Stormfront site and found that AOL is blocking access. Imagine that. AOL as community censor. Thanks for "protecting" me AOL. Now I think I will visit Internet Explorer or some other provider that is not in the censorship business.
gabe
· 2 years ago
hes from texas of course hes going to take it texas is def. still racist
David
· 2 years ago
I agee with Ron Paul, this is a free country and anyone who wishes may donate to whom they please. why the limitus test for donation to political campagin? To return the funds, from this man, who views I donot hold, is an offense against the very liberty of all american to give.
I admire the Congressman from Texas for his defense of liberty.
Bob Cain
· 2 years ago
For Ron Paul to keep the money is wrong on its face. Accepting the money while holding his nose --as his spokesman implies-- doesn't cut it. Donating it to charity would have been a less odious option. He should have, quietly or loudly, just given it back.
Ray
· 2 years ago
Ron should return Black's money, and Hillary should return Jackson & Sharpton's. Racists all....
quickjustice
· 2 years ago
It doesn't wash, guys. "It doesn't matter" is not a defense or an excuse. "They all do it" is not a defense or an excuse. Taking the money from the white supremacist appears to be part of a large pattern. If it were an isolated incident, we could write it off to a single misstep. That doesn't appear to be the case here.
I'm not disparaging your policy positions to say that it isn't acceptable to have a white supremacist as the GOP candidate. The reason why should be self-evident. It's the character issue, not the policy. To be blunt, such a candidate can't be elected to a statewide office, not to mention a national office.
jeff11123
· 2 years ago
This is a smear plain and simple. Why doesn't AOL write a headline about Ron Paul's record-breaking day earning $6.1 million in contributions on a single day Dec. 16, something never achieved before? Why doesn't AOL write headlines about Ron Paul's positions on ending the US wars, and restoring human rights? Why doesn't AOL write headlines about Ron Paul's written denunciataion of racism? Why dosen't AOL write headlines about the "corporate" candidates who get tens of millions of dollars from the military-industrial complex and special interests (such as AOL?).
This story is a smear and race-baiting. It is absurd to expect Ron Paul to screen his donors, investigate their personal beliefs, and return every donation that the media tells him to return. That money is much better off being used as it was intended, to further the cause of Constitutional government and restoration of our Bill of Rights. To give it back to a racist is silly. Why does anybody want the donor get a gift of $500 from ANYBODY?
I am cancelling my AOL and Time Magazine subscriptions.
Unknown
· 2 years ago
Ron Paul should use the money to treat his mental health problem - - - he is nuts!
NeoConned
· 2 years ago
A nation that once prided itself on a sense of rugged individualism has become uncomfortably obsessed with racial group identities.
The collectivist mindset is at the heart of racism.
Government as an institution is particularly ill-suited to combat bigotry. Bigotry at its essence is a problem of the heart, and we cannot change people's hearts by passing more laws and regulations.
It is the federal government that most divides us by race, class, religion, and gender. Through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, government plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails. Government "benevolence" crowds out genuine goodwill by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot. This leads to resentment and hostility among us.
Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism.
The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence - not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.
In a free society, every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.
MrMikeBinkley
· 2 years ago
As all libertarians are painfully aware, the political universe of collectives – left and right – are filled with control freaks. They insist that they have better uses for your money than you do. And they get quite self-righteous when you disagree.
Tellingly, some of Dr. Paul’s critics suggested that the NAACP is a more worthy recipient than his campaign. Consider the irony. The NAACP, like David Duke, believes that black Americans require racial preferences (they use the euphemism “affirmative action”) in order to succeed. The NAACP’s brand of white supremacy is real and clearly harmful.
JRH
· 2 years ago
Who cares what it LOOKS like...He's said over and over again that he does not approve of the source and that it is their loss. Actually, it makes a lot of sense...if he were to give it back it would the same as funding a white supremist. He's doing a very logical thing.
Bob Powell
· 2 years ago
Last time I checked the white Supremacist still have a right to be heard and a right to vote. Most of us do not agree with them but hey, these days I would trust a Supremacist before I would trust my fellow republicans. (Ron Paul is an exception....I will vote for him).
Jeff
· 2 years ago
I reported this on my blog Nov. 11th, long before all you "pros" did!
Diva
· 2 years ago
Why is everyone so focused on this, while meanwhile no one seems to care that Hillary Clinton is getting substantial campaign contributions from China. Also, I can't imagine a bunch of white supremacists would choose a Thai restaurant to meet at!
the man
· 2 years ago
so what this guy has as much chance to become president as I do.
Sayno toslavery
· 2 years ago
Ron Paul is doing the right thing by keeping the money. I don't care what a persons beliefs are, if they want to support a Ron Paul that is their freedom. If you were homeless and someone wanted to give you food would you care that the generosity came from someone that didn't think exactly how you did? Almost all the candidates get donations from special interests. The wonderful thing about Paul's fund raising is that it has been funded by individuals that believe in freedom. The media is going to have to try a lot harder to dig up dirt on Paul, its pathetic childish and just plain stupid. Now if Paul was campaigning at a KKK rally that would be a different scenario. Ron Paul for 2008! FOX and CNN should be ashamed.
JT Friel
· 2 years ago
I've always questioned the reality in Ron Paul's thinking...his beliefs our out there to say the least. Now there are two points to be made here: 1. Why would Ron Paul think it was just for his campaign to benefit from white supremacist funds? 2. Why are Ron Paul's beliefs in line with those of a white supremacist, enough so to earn a $500 contribution?
jessica
· 2 years ago
I'm not sure what's worse accepting a donation from a racist or from a corperation like the other candidates...but then again is there really a difference. Someone is just trying to dig up stuff on Ron Paul and thats the best they could get. Move on.
Michael
· 2 years ago
Paul's decision in this matter highlights exactly why he is appealing to people: he does not make decisions as a pandering poltician but instead as a logical person.
Paul's been battling the media throughout this race. He has no reason to return the money because it makes no "statement" about him except what the media tint gives it. This donation happened weeks ago, but it's getting much more coverage now that Ron Paul had a huge record breaking fundraising day.
That's saying something: people are genuinely starting to see Ron Paul's success and are trying to break it with any criticism they can cling to.
lolly
· 2 years ago
....why is who still talking about what?
Josh
· 2 years ago
I am with him on this one. I do not think he should give it back. So what Black supports Paul and chose to donate to him? It is a free world. Paul is not a white supremacist and he does not promote that kind of thinking or agenda. You can't blame Paul for having Black support him. And you say that with him raising 6million he can afford to loose the $500, think again. Just look at the money Clinton and Obama have compared to Paul, he needs every penny he can get. Just because someone believes a certain thing or has a certain job does not mean they cannot vote or be apart of this democracy. Black voiced his opinon by donating to Paul and Paul should keep the money. He has made it clear he is against what Black stands for, but him giving the money back or donating it elsewhere will not stop Blacks support. Also, you could look at the Peter Paul deal with Clinton. She didn't give the money back to him, nor did she report it on her campaign finance report. I will take someone who is honest over a lier any day of the week.
Dave Sr.
· 2 years ago
I have read every comment posted. Amazing how deep the PC mentality has pervaded the American thought process and I find it alarming. A donation is a donation, regardless of where it comes from.
I thought Ron Paul was inconsequential as a candidate until I read these posts. Now I plan to seek more information on his positions. Although I'm a registered Democrat, I may be a convert.
Carrie_Nation
· 2 years ago
I see no reason to get all up in arms over this. If you want to dig into past things, look at what happened when Wilson was put in office. HE was put in or should I say some saw it fit to buy him in so they could start the mess with this nations money. The next order of his "people" was that he took us off the gold standard. It has been a down hill slid with money since. In fact if you watched "Bush" today you may have caught his words on "the paper" and what it is really worth. IF you were paying attention. Just a the end of the press briefing he made a statement I hope you heard it. If what I think he was implying the Five hundred will not be worth much by the end of winter. I will wait and see.
Again the press is NOT really covering the Ron Paul support that is going on.
yolanda
· 2 years ago
He will lose voters. Is $500.00 worth it, I think not.
cfountain72
· 2 years ago
You have got to be kidding me. The Captain (and LGF's) is taking tips from the SPLC's site called 'HATEWATCH: Unmasking the Radical Right,' from a piece calling Buchanan a 'white nationalist' and calling the Taft Club where Paul spoke an 'extremist group.' Yes, an 'extremist group' who has also had 'extreme' likes of James Pinkerton, John Derbyshire, and Michael Tanner come speak there.
Ah, it gets better. Now we're taking news tips from the American National Socialist Party!? I'm sure that you always take what they say as gospel. That vanguard of truth justice and the American way. Even Dr. Paul's critics must acknowledge that he is the absolute antithesis of a socialist.
The donation issue is debatable; a legitimate case could be made either way. But by regurgitating this other nonsense shows that your anti-Paul bias has blinded you from objective thought.
Peace be with you.
Octavius
· 2 years ago
LISTEn, Strmfront JUST got A billion dollars worth of advertising from you clowns. Black only had to spend 500 bucks. He got more exposure than the superbowl now. THANKS PRESS
Pat
· 2 years ago
LOL....good point!
Josh
· 1 year ago
If Ron Paul should not be diluting the work of neo-nazis by taking their money, then why is the US diluting the efforts of terrorists by taking their oil??
Captain Dan
· 1 year ago
There are far more weighty questions to ask canidates: I'd like to ask Giuliani about his company based in Dubai and it's connection to the Emir of Qatar who's friend is the 911 planner and who told the Emir that the FBI was closing in on his hiding place at the Emir's farm? I'd like to ask Romney about his company who is a defense contractor and has a chinese partner? I'd like to ask Hillary about her connections to the NAU? I'd like to ask Obama about his campain contributers? Lot's of important questions to ask, why fuss over a $500 dollar donation. We could ask canidates about the contributions they got of $10,000 and above, might be more important. Could answer who expects a return on their investments. Or the number could be $100,000 and show who really controlls the country. Ron Pauls donors have been averaging $100-200 he answered the question and believes that a $500 dollar donation from a supporter, no matter what his personal beliefs will still be use by Ron Paul to win the election will allow him to effect policy and return our freedom to believe as we wish an express our views with out government persecusion.
Jonathan
· 2 years ago
Huh?
I'm not condoning white supremacy nor do I think Ron Paul is....but how is that any better or worse than accepting money from the drug or tobacco lobbies?
It isn't any different. Except for the part about the candidate purposely soliciting it and then selling his/her vote/position in return.
C'mon now. If you want to debate his politics...have at it. But to try and suggest that Ron Paul has less honor or integrity than the other candidates is comical.
UncleAl
· 2 years ago
Accepting money from legal corporations is bad? What's the color of the sky where you live?
gaffo
· 2 years ago
"Sorry, but that doesn't sell."
Politically? you are right - it looks horrible.
Philosophically/morally I see nothing wrong with Paul takingthe bozo's money.
" Keeping the money makes it look like the campaign approves of the source"
Huh? since when does me taking your money make me all of the sudden approve of you or your message?
You sound like a Democrat Captain!! - that is the SAME argument that the Campaign Reformers use!!!
now it might LOOK like Paul Approves - and again politically esp. for knee-jerk Politically correct types it will hurt.
But morally there is no injuction on taking the chump's money.
"What kind of money will Ron Paul refuse? Drug money? Extortion rackets? Mob skim?"
Absurd Captain - you telling us that being a Racist Neo-Nazi is illegal and the 1st is negated when you hear stuff you don't like.
Equating offensive Free speech with drug dealing!
rediculus.
Those are the questions people will want answered. Paul's response does not give confidence in the judgment of his campaign, and by extension its candidate.
gaffo
· 2 years ago
I love how Republicans equate Judaism with Israel.
Well alot of folks no longer beliew that bullship and many are no longer afriad to tell AIPAC and Israel to stuff it.
America is NOT Israel.............................yet anyway.
All the Orthodox Jews who are Anti-Zonists (you know - one group got into the headlines last year) must be "anti-semitic"
LOL.
Now if you'd like to post an actual quote from Ron Paul that is anti-Semitic (rather than blasting a fascist-trending political construct called Israel) then go right ahead............................
I expect it will take a long while................
DM
· 2 years ago
This has got to be the stupidest of all smears.
And I love this one: "What kind of money will Ron Paul refuse? Drug money? Extortion rackets? Mob skim?" Excuse me, but is it illegal now to hold crazy ideas? If the money isn't coming from a criminal enterprise then who the hell cares? It's the candidate and their history that matters, not one weirdo in a crowd of 150,000. The same Don Black character was a George Bush supporter...are these absurd smears only trotted out when we're REALLY desperate?
Jacob
· 2 years ago
My goodness how quick we are to jump on the only candidate proposing freedom as a guide and the constitution as a compass. Ron Paul has NO Obligation to give this money back, why should he? Does he need it less than any other charity? He as he stated on other Major News programs, most recently on Glenn Beck does not support these radical groups. Such as 9/11 Truthers, White Supremecists, or Violent organizatoins of any kind. As stated by Ron Paul he believes in the ways of Ghandi, and Martin Luther King. If the Media can not attack Ron Paul on his record I support they'll have to focus on a few of his black sheep supporters. Perhaps Ed will be so absent minded as to forget the Black Sheep of other 'major' Contenders? Or Perhaps Ed is as ignorant as most in the media in thinking that HE will tell ME who to vote for. I support Ron Paul, cause he supports eliminating the IRS, Income Tax, and Returning to a gold standard. NON-INTERVENTIONISM, and a withdrawing our troops from Iraq and a balanced Budget. He supports allowing our Youth leave a Failed Social Security System. He basis his votes on the Constitution and doesn't need to "consult" his attorneys. He is a Doctor, a Veteran, a Congressman, and a Patriot. God Bless Ron Paul, and God Bless America
p.s. I'm not a Kook, nor a "fringe" movement, I'm an Average Joe --- working an Average Job --- and going to College.
p.s.s. Sorry Main Stream Media, I will not bow down to your will to impose the six candidates YOU feel are fit to run this country. Poll numbers are inaccurate cause they don't include ANY republican's who did not vote in this last election, which was A LOT of them because Bush betrayed the party with his terrible budget. Trevor Lyman the man who raised the 10 million dollars and a lot of the some odd 100,000 donors have never voted before or participated in recent years. Can't wait to see the "shock" of all the MSM's come caucus time.
hunter_123
· 2 years ago
Don't bogart that joint, dude.
Ben Bussey
· 2 years ago
The only things you can compare it to are extortion money, drug money, etc? Being a racist isn't illegal. It's ridiculous, but not illegal. Ron Paul is 100% correct in his decision.
gregdn
· 2 years ago
Paul takes White Supremacist money and Rudy has Norman Podhoretz on his staff. I'll take Paul over Rudy anyday.
quickjustice
· 2 years ago
I'm not sure you really meant to say that Paul's support from white supremacists is better than Rudy's use of a Jewish adviser? Certainly, white supremacists don't like Jews. But you're O.K. with that?
gregdn
· 2 years ago
Huh? my objections to Podhoretz center on his foreign policy views not his religion.
quickjustice
· 2 years ago
You have every right to be an isolationist. You have no right to elevate white supremacy over the "isolationist versus internationalist" debate.
That kind of thinking is why Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate I can't support, not because of his isolationist policies (although I disagree with them), but because you seem to think that white supremacy is a joke that you need not take seriously.
Tenbatsu
· 2 years ago
Guilt by association is a tired fallacy. Ron Paul does not pander, he has taken a white supremacists money and spent if for the good. More power to him.
All Comments
In theory he is a libertarian with conservative tendencies, in fact he has pretty much focused on the standard leftist criticism of the WoT with bouts of borderline trooferism and anti-semitism thrown in.
Perhaps Paul thinks he is taking his leftist support base for a ride, but I think when he finally throws in the towel he will find he has lost more then an election...
The real question is... why does this surprise you, Ed?
Ron Paul could have taken the easy path: he could have accepted the money and then donated it to a worthy charity, say, the United Negro College Fund. "Stormfront Dude" would be out $500, a charitable cause gets a financial boost, and Paul comes out smelling like a rose.
But noooooooooooooooo........
There are a few great comments from the lay public on Ron Paul at this Yahoo! Answers post: "http://nz.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071216004338AAB5CJI"
I thought the comments there by sophicmuse and Harald Hardrada (3rd and 4th Answers) were especially good.
But can you really compare the skin head's money to "drug money" or "mafia money" or "extortion money"? Those activities are illegal...I don’t think it’s illegal to be a skinhead.
Inquiring minds want to know!
a US$500 contribution expected to buy for an American taxpayer supporting the kind of reform
Dr. Paul espouses?
At what point of "discovery" do such donations become ...unstable?
When did Dr. Paul speak for, endorsae, or coddle, ANY "supremacist" group?
Is THAT the problem? Is Don Black politicly inexpedient?
How about ...say...The Chinese? What of convicted criminals desperately needing a pardon?
What about OXFAM? Are such groups in dire passion for "special exception" exempt from
scrutiny? How about Black Legislator or Black Lawyers groups? Are they to be snubbed?
Are their motives and integrity to be acceptable until um....discovered?
What say those that openly aim to cancel the Constitution are denied access?
Can The Brady Bunch have their champions derided for representing their cash?
Jeeze, try for some higher hanging fruit. Generally, such effort is bestowed a sweeter
reward.
See my two links above for more.
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The notion that Paul should return the money seems easy to defend in this case. What if the donor was not openly a member of a radical group, but allegations were made to that effect? Should people be allowed to scour for donors and find people who are in some way objectionable, when no illegality is involved?
Paul is seen, rightly, as a "protest" candidate and as a result he has a motley crew of supporters. But it strikes me as anti-democratic and, at least, a waste of time to assess the ideological views of legal campaign donors. There are thousands of people on both sides with radical views that don't openly belong to an extremist organization... should we start lie detector tests to find them out?
You know what Ron Paul stands for Freedom and the Constitution he has 30 years of history to back up every stance
And he stated on Glenn Beck his stance on violence, and truthers, and his "fringe" supporters.
I am an American dang it, and I will not let you, Ed, smear, me, a God Fearing, America Loving patriot for supporting Ron Paul.
You're the Bigot for giving this schmuck so much publicity, it's, one, contribution out of roughly 400,000 Ron Paul has received, over 150,000 between two days 1/2 of which were New Contributers each day. Instead of focusing on one Bigot and perpetuating his website, and his ideas, why don't you focus on the issue?
Why are YOU not voting for Ron Paul? is it his stance on Abortion? Foreign Policy? or His extremely sound Fiscal ideas?
Truth is, he is the ONLY Republican to stand on his principles, and has SOLID history of over 30 years to back it up.
h/t: Little Green Footballs
I personally would return the donation, but I'm not ready to label Paul a neo-Nazi for merely accepting an unsolicited donation...as long as he doesn't offer anything in return. Keep up the investigative work, Cap'n.
1) Screw Gaffo. The next thing he learns about Judaism will be the first.
2) Ronald Reagan took money from the John Birch Society and when challenged, said "The fact that they endorse me doesn't mean I endorse them." If Paul had the brains, memory or friends to dredge that one up he could have defused it in a sentence. Apparently either he lacks the aforementioned resources, or he despises Ronald Reagan and would not stoop to recycling his wisdom.
3) Screw Gaffo and the horse he rode in on. No, scratch the horse - nobody should have to take sloppy seconds after Gaffo.
4) Apologize to host and community for appropriate and necessary, but unusual vulgarity.
Research, Research, Research
Why is everyone still covering him?
Like it or not, his character has become an issue. Is he sympathetic to truthers and neo-Nazis, or not?
NO! instead lets give a White Supremecists the spot light and attempt to smear a man's supporters cause we can't attack him on the issue.
Please this blog is pathetic, as well as it's uninformed contributers. I can't believe people...
And yes, I support Ron Paul, and No I Don't Hate Black People, and Nor Do I believe the Twin Towers were brought down by the U.S. Government
I do believe in Freedom --- and the U.S. Constitution, Non-Interventionism, and Money that means something.
My claim is that the story should be about issues, which most of which do go over well with Republicans.
Ron Paul is
Pro-Life
Pro-Balanced Budget
Pro-Cutting/Eliminating most taxes, including the income tax
Pro-Gun rights (endorsed by Gun Owners of America (2nd largest 2nd Amendment advocates)
Pro-Small Government, including the elimination of wasteful departments
Pro-Precious Metal Standard, which most people are for
----which do go well for Republicans, when faced with
I can't decide Mitt Romney
and
I only became a Republican cause Democrats wouldn't hire me Rudy
---funny Rudy criticizes Hillary for appearing as social Democrat Presidential Candidates of the past, that he voted for in the past. Oh the ironies of life.
Ron Paul is a 10 term congressman with a history of consistency.
I know where he stands.
Mr Black, whether you like his views or not, has the right to donate to a campaign. Afterall, he IS a US citizen and has the right to vote for whoever he wants. Just because he supports Ron Paul, doesn't mean Ron Paul supports him.
Unlike other candidates, who take money from questionable sources.. Ron Paul cannot be accused of taking the money like it's some sort of bribe to take on that persons beliefs or agenda. Ron Paul cannot be bought.
He should keep the money, and refuse to play the PC card. This is about Ron Paul, not about Mr Black's views.
Now, he has received some money from corporations from a site that track it, I wish i could find the link but he doesn't outright refuse the money. The people, corporations(few there are) and others will donate to him with full knowledge that it is just a charitable donation with no influence on the 72 year old candidate. If he is already fighting for your cause and you don't have to lobby to him to get him to work to your benefit, at least give him money to keep doing what he's been doing.
I don't by any means defend the views of Don Black, however, money is money, is money, is money. Unfortunately you need a lot of it to fight the political battles and if Mr. Black feels that Ron Paul is helping America and stands for ideals, even if they don't endorse his specifically, I say go for it. I don't know much about Mr. Black and I don't think not giving him his 500 back with hurt him much. If he gives the money back it is almost against Ron Paul's message. That would be telling Mr. Black that sorry, your practice of freedom is not as good as someone else's. Mr. Black just happens to wear his negative views on his sleeve and is proud of them. What about the people that donate money to campaigns and watch kiddy pron, commit violent acts against their family, sell/use illegal drugs? I mean, I'm sorry but everyone has their rights, and if they are exercising them in a bad manner then they will get the justice they deserve upon being caught or making a mistake.
You should take a look at your core beliefs and let us all know who YOU support and the candidate that best represents your beliefs
Right now I see three drawbacks with the existing system.
All candidates use software to submit their donations to the FEC and there really is no reason why they can't move the frequency up to monthly full reports with weekly updates.
Donations under $200 don't have to be reported at all.
There is no way to link which donations went through which bundler only via registered lobbiests.
Right now there is a lot of speculation that there is a bunch of Hillary/nutroots money being filtered to the Paul campaign just to keep the right side muddied up as much as they can manage. It is suspected that most of those donations are in the under 200 range so they can't be tracked back.
If you take a good look at a lot of the kids working as supporters of the Paul camp, you will see people who would be more at home over at the Kos kids zone or the DU than being associated with anything that has the word Republican attached to it.
He is simply being propped up to provide the appearance of a Republican party supported guy that the left side can simply point to and say "look how weird they are man , we gotta kick their butt".
It's not a Democratic Conspiracy...
You want to look at some Scandals, look at the connections between Mitt Romney and Black Water Security. Now there is a scandal.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071224/scahill
[quote]NN/YouTube debate, when Romney refused to call waterboarding
torture, he said, "I'm not going to specify the specific means of what is
and what is not torture so that the people that we capture will know what
things we're able to do and what things we're not able to do. And I get that
advice from Cofer Black, who is a person who was responsible for
counterterrorism in the CIA for some thirty-five years."[/quote]
Actually Cofer Black was in the CIA 28 years three of which were counter terrorism, but he is a head executive for Black Water, and that is why Black Water has a major vested interest to see Mitt Romney elected.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=83d_1197511033 What is Blackwater's Role in the 2008 Presidential Race? Part 1 of 2
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=38d_1197511537 What is Blackwater's Role in the 2008 Presidential Race? Part 2 of 2
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c6c_1197668932
I know I'm a "kook" and another Democratic "loon" or a I'm a Registered Republican since I was 17, and want an honest candidate, you do the research and decide.
Day Trader has your number, pal, and all of the rest of you nutroots' sycophants.
The thing is, he is running for president with postiions, which should make it OBVIOUS to anyone who has taken the time to read about them, that run COMPLETELY COUNTER to the donors views. This guilt by association thing is absolutely crazy.
How about against those who have been fighting the War on Poverty for fifty years (with no end in sight)?
Why would a candidate give money back to a White Supremacist to promote evil?
Answer it. Now. Let's see how you think on your own.
you people are fascists!
If that was true, why did Tancredo only raise a few thousand dollars? Paul was considered less viable than even him up until a few months ago.
"Maybe Ron Paul can be driven from the race (fat chance with all his money) and his support can be driven back to the Democrats where it belongs."
For the record, I'm a conservative Republican who became disgusted with Bush's liberal spending, massive increase of the debt, nation-building, and open border policy. If it wasn't for Paul or a candidate like him, I wouldn't give the "ex"-leftist neocons who now run the party my vote.
"Ron Paul has made arguably racist and anti-Semitic statements himself, including in his own newsletter, signed and approved by him."
There's only that one newsletter, and yes his story is that someone else wrote it in a newsletter bearing his name. If you've ever worked in politics, especially at the legislative level, you'd know that it's common practice to have newsletters under your name with which you have nothing to do. Not saying it's a wise practice, but that's what it is.
Besides which, he has never said or done anything similar in this 30+ year political career. It stands out as way out-of-character, especially when you consider how anti-collectivist he is. It's odd to think he would suddenly become a racist for one newsletter after being in politics for years and while he was taking a break to return to his medical practice in Texas.
"In theory he is a libertarian with conservative tendencies, in fact he has pretty much focused on the standard leftist criticism of the WoT with bouts of borderline trooferism and anti-semitism thrown in."
As Ronald Reagan put it: If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals -- if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
Really, Paul is an old school, traditional conservative. Barry Goldwater was more of a hawk than Paul is (although he was no neocon), but otherwise they share similar beliefs.
And his criticism of the War on Terror comes from the right, just as Pat Buchanan's does. Paleconservatives view our aggressive interventionism as being a significant contributing factor to violent anti-Americanism. It's a very logical, very real phenomenon called blowback. Check out the bipartisan 9/11 Commission Report for more on that.
I dont care if Stalin himself rose from the grave and gave a billion dollars to Paul. Paul would still go on doing exactly what he does.. which is vote for the integrity of the constitution, regardless of who does or does not like it.
Let's see AOL put up a poll that says, "Do you think a candidate should give back the millions and millions of dollars in special interest money from the Military industrial complex, Media Industrial complex and the Medical industrial complex?"
Ron Paul is NOT giving the money back, because he doesn't believe in sending money back to someone who can use it to do bad, when he can use it to do GOOD.
You people are so brainwashed and rounded up like little cute sheep. Oh, and Oprah said jumping off cliffs is AMAZING, let's all go do it!
All men are created equal = black people/natives/asains/etc.
John
I dont agree with white supremacy, but I do agree with a persons right to choose to be like that. Most people are pretty stupid anyways. let the supremist hurt someone, then we have the ability to 'stifle their creativity'
It's small one sided thinking such as this, which create the problems we have today.
Being a Ron Paul supporter, I can think of no better use of the tarnished $500.00 gift than to help elect the man who will champion the cause of freedom in this country...
I don't see why you are making such a big fuss about this? I for one couldn't care less if one Neo-Nazi gave his campaign $500...and I'm JEWISH!
Ron Paul is clearly not a white supremacist. Actually, his message is the total opposite of that. His message is of peace and prosperity and if one screwball Neo-Nazi gave his campaign $500, that's $500 dollars less for that screwball to spend. I'm all for it.
I wish there was some way to take even more of his money away from him!!!!! The less money that Neo-Nazi has the better.
Plus, why should Ron Paul give that money back to him? Chances are his $500 were already spent on the campaign and now Ron Paul would have to take $500 that was donated by others to repay that white supremacist. Why should my money be given to that white supremacist?
What about all the other candidates who get millions upon millions of dollars from special interest groups? That should be the real question and I don't see you asking them...
People should question those politicians who get big money from all sorts of special interest groups and lobbyists. Those special interests have one goal in mind: to buy influence.
They know that by giving millions of dollars they will be owed "favors" if their candidate of choice happens to win the Presidency.
Fact: Ron Paul only receives campaign contributions from regular Americans and not from multinational corporations or lobbyists.
This story of $500 is ridiculous and people who fall for this silly story need to get their priorities straight.
Let's start worrying about the millions of dollars given by the special interests and not some measly $500 from one psychotic person. Let's keep things in perspective people.
RR
Vote for Liberty and Freedom 2008!!!
I wouldn't be surprise if all this was set up to get people to stop joining the Ron Paul movement.
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I admire the Congressman from Texas for his defense of liberty.
Racists all....
I'm not disparaging your policy positions to say that it isn't acceptable to have a white supremacist as the GOP candidate. The reason why should be self-evident. It's the character issue, not the policy. To be blunt, such a candidate can't be elected to a statewide office, not to mention a national office.
This story is a smear and race-baiting. It is absurd to expect Ron Paul to screen his donors, investigate their personal beliefs, and return every donation that the media tells him to return. That money is much better off being used as it was intended, to further the cause of Constitutional government and restoration of our Bill of Rights. To give it back to a racist is silly. Why does anybody want the donor get a gift of $500 from ANYBODY?
I am cancelling my AOL and Time Magazine subscriptions.
The collectivist mindset is at the heart of racism.
Government as an institution is particularly ill-suited to combat bigotry. Bigotry at its essence is a problem of the heart, and we cannot change people's hearts by passing more laws and regulations.
It is the federal government that most divides us by race, class, religion, and gender. Through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, government plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails. Government "benevolence" crowds out genuine goodwill by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot. This leads to resentment and hostility among us.
Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism.
The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence - not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.
In a free society, every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.
Tellingly, some of Dr. Paul’s critics suggested that the NAACP is a more worthy recipient than his campaign. Consider the irony. The NAACP, like David Duke, believes that black Americans require racial preferences (they use the euphemism “affirmative action”) in order to succeed. The NAACP’s brand of white supremacy is real and clearly harmful.
I don't care what a persons beliefs are, if they want to support a Ron Paul that is their freedom.
If you were homeless and someone wanted to give you food would you care that the generosity
came from someone that didn't think exactly how you did? Almost all the candidates get donations from special interests. The wonderful thing about Paul's fund raising is that it has been funded by individuals that believe in freedom. The media is going to have to try a lot harder to dig up dirt on Paul, its pathetic childish and just plain stupid. Now if Paul was campaigning at a KKK
rally that would be a different scenario. Ron Paul for 2008! FOX and CNN should be ashamed.
Paul's been battling the media throughout this race. He has no reason to return the money because it makes no "statement" about him except what the media tint gives it. This donation happened weeks ago, but it's getting much more coverage now that Ron Paul had a huge record breaking fundraising day.
That's saying something: people are genuinely starting to see Ron Paul's success and are trying to break it with any criticism they can cling to.
I thought Ron Paul was inconsequential as a candidate until I read these posts. Now I plan to seek more information on his positions. Although I'm a registered Democrat, I may be a convert.
If you want to dig into past things, look at what happened when Wilson was put in office. HE was put in or should I say some saw it fit to buy him in so they could start the mess with this nations money. The next order of his "people" was that he took us off the gold standard. It has been a down hill slid with money since. In fact if you watched "Bush" today you may have caught his words on "the paper" and what it is really worth. IF you were paying attention. Just a the end of the press briefing he made a statement I hope you heard it. If what I think he was implying the Five hundred will not be worth much by the end of winter. I will wait and see.
Again the press is NOT really covering the Ron Paul support that is going on.
Ah, it gets better. Now we're taking news tips from the American National Socialist Party!? I'm sure that you always take what they say as gospel. That vanguard of truth justice and the American way. Even Dr. Paul's critics must acknowledge that he is the absolute antithesis of a socialist.
The donation issue is debatable; a legitimate case could be made either way. But by regurgitating this other nonsense shows that your anti-Paul bias has blinded you from objective thought.
Peace be with you.
I'd like to ask Giuliani about his company based in Dubai and it's connection to the Emir of Qatar who's friend is the 911 planner and who told the Emir that the FBI was closing in on his hiding place at the Emir's farm?
I'd like to ask Romney about his company who is a defense contractor and has a chinese partner?
I'd like to ask Hillary about her connections to the NAU?
I'd like to ask Obama about his campain contributers?
Lot's of important questions to ask, why fuss over a $500 dollar donation.
We could ask canidates about the contributions they got of $10,000 and above, might be more important. Could answer who expects a return on their investments. Or the number could be $100,000 and show who really controlls the country.
Ron Pauls donors have been averaging $100-200 he answered the question and believes that a $500 dollar donation from a supporter, no matter what his personal beliefs will still be use by Ron Paul to win the election will allow him to effect policy and return our freedom to believe as we wish an express our views with out government persecusion.
I'm not condoning white supremacy nor do I think Ron Paul is....but how is that any better or worse than accepting money from the drug or tobacco lobbies?
It isn't any different. Except for the part about the candidate purposely soliciting it and then selling his/her vote/position in return.
C'mon now. If you want to debate his politics...have at it. But to try and suggest that Ron Paul has less honor or integrity than the other candidates is comical.
Politically? you are right - it looks horrible.
Philosophically/morally I see nothing wrong with Paul takingthe bozo's money.
" Keeping the money makes it look like the campaign approves of the source"
Huh? since when does me taking your money make me all of the sudden approve of you or your message?
You sound like a Democrat Captain!! - that is the SAME argument that the Campaign Reformers use!!!
now it might LOOK like Paul Approves - and again politically esp. for knee-jerk Politically correct types it will hurt.
But morally there is no injuction on taking the chump's money.
"What kind of money will Ron Paul refuse? Drug money? Extortion rackets? Mob skim?"
Absurd Captain - you telling us that being a Racist Neo-Nazi is illegal and the 1st is negated when you hear stuff you don't like.
Equating offensive Free speech with drug dealing!
rediculus.
Those are the questions people will want answered. Paul's response does not give confidence in the judgment of his campaign, and by extension its candidate.
Well alot of folks no longer beliew that bullship and many are no longer afriad to tell AIPAC and Israel to stuff it.
America is NOT Israel.............................yet anyway.
All the Orthodox Jews who are Anti-Zonists (you know - one group got into the headlines last year) must be "anti-semitic"
LOL.
Now if you'd like to post an actual quote from Ron Paul that is anti-Semitic (rather than blasting a fascist-trending political construct called Israel) then go right ahead............................
I expect it will take a long while................
And I love this one: "What kind of money will Ron Paul refuse? Drug money? Extortion rackets? Mob skim?" Excuse me, but is it illegal now to hold crazy ideas? If the money isn't coming from a criminal enterprise then who the hell cares? It's the candidate and their history that matters, not one weirdo in a crowd of 150,000. The same Don Black character was a George Bush supporter...are these absurd smears only trotted out when we're REALLY desperate?
Ron Paul has NO Obligation to give this money back, why should he? Does he need it less than any other charity?
He as he stated on other Major News programs, most recently on Glenn Beck does not support these radical groups. Such as 9/11 Truthers, White Supremecists, or Violent organizatoins of any kind.
As stated by Ron Paul he believes in the ways of Ghandi, and Martin Luther King.
If the Media can not attack Ron Paul on his record I support they'll have to focus on a few of his black sheep supporters. Perhaps Ed will be so absent minded as to forget the Black Sheep of other 'major' Contenders?
Or Perhaps Ed is as ignorant as most in the media in thinking that HE will tell ME who to vote for.
I support Ron Paul, cause he supports eliminating the IRS, Income Tax, and Returning to a gold standard. NON-INTERVENTIONISM, and a withdrawing our troops from Iraq and a balanced Budget. He supports allowing our Youth leave a Failed Social Security System. He basis his votes on the Constitution and doesn't need to "consult" his attorneys.
He is a Doctor, a Veteran, a Congressman, and a Patriot.
God Bless Ron Paul, and God Bless America
p.s. I'm not a Kook, nor a "fringe" movement, I'm an Average Joe --- working an Average Job --- and going to College.
p.s.s. Sorry Main Stream Media, I will not bow down to your will to impose the six candidates YOU feel are fit to run this country. Poll numbers are inaccurate cause they don't include ANY republican's who did not vote in this last election, which was A LOT of them because Bush betrayed the party with his terrible budget. Trevor Lyman the man who raised the 10 million dollars and a lot of the some odd 100,000 donors have never voted before or participated in recent years. Can't wait to see the "shock" of all the MSM's come caucus time.
I'll take Paul over Rudy anyday.
That kind of thinking is why Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate I can't support, not because of his isolationist policies (although I disagree with them), but because you seem to think that white supremacy is a joke that you need not take seriously.