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Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

chaking — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:55:18 -0000

I don't remember any religion doing that actually.
How many religions blow up the FBI bldg in Oklahoma city?

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

essucht — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:41:03 -0000

Deny the facts all you want, you are still wrong.

I notice you refuse to acknowledge you were wrong about Zarqawi going to Iraq before the war also.

Well, as they say, there are none so blind as those that will not see.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

chaking — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:52:40 -0000

http://dictionary.reference...

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chaking — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:50:33 -0000

Wow - first of all that's copyright infringement. Second of all it's irritating - 3rd, use a damn link next time please...

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Joe Godfrey — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 06:25:58 -0000

This goes to show how important it is that we win in Iraq. It also shows that no matter what the enemy does, the anti-war crowd (democrats) will keep their blinders on and fail to recognize what type of enemy we are dealing with and why it is so important that we win.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Bogey — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:21:26 -0000

LET ahemmm... "FREEDOM" reign!!!!

A sobering first-hand report from Basra as the British leave:

One graffito on a wall bordering the main Al-Dijari road reads: “We warn all women of Basra, especially those who are not wearing abbaya [a long, loose black cloak worn over everyday clothes], that we will kill you.” It is signed in the name of an offshoot of the Mahdi Army, the strongest militia in Basra.

It is not just women who live in fear. Professionals such as engineers, doctors and scientists have been dragged from their homes and murdered.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Bogey — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:53:10 -0000

right.

what happens when the rotations run out (as they will next year anyways)

what and whom will prevent the almost inevitable civil war that is yet to come?

at the very least we'd have made serious progress in eliminating the Al Qaeda in Iraq problem we created by invading.

the only problem is that "going back to square one" will have cost 4000 lives, many more maimed and invalids for life, and trillion plus dollars.

if you want to ultimately call that "victory" - well.

General Pyrrhus I'm sure will agree.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Bogey — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:49:49 -0000

the Foreign Service professionals are "reliable" enough.

plus, everything they say makes ;perfect sense.

No dictator would tie his hands or his fate to fanatics.
defies all common sense

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Bogey — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:48:32 -0000

nope, he joined Al Qaeda AFTER the invasion.

no apology.

and feel free to live in your own deluded world.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

essucht — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:48:02 -0000

nah it was more like Kennedy winning Chicago and IL in 1960 with all those dead people voting.

That is true actually, we know for a fact that Gore got thousands of votes from illegals and the dead.

I still remember Bush was up big with 1% of precincts remaining, suddenly he was down to a bout a thousand votes and the Democrats launched plan B (recount till we win)

Good news for us, their plan A (produce votes) failed since they weren't very good at math.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

essucht — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:44:59 -0000

He fought with Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and then joined up with AL Qaeada in Iraq before the war, as I posted above (and you have not reponded to).

I'll take your silence as a tacit apology.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Marc — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:25:32 -0000

What's funny is your attempt to pass off a video of cut & paste elements and posted by some unknown idiot named "emeratesshadow."

That's some reliable source you got there!

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curk — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:26:18 -0000

you people are crazy. this is propaganda.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Bogey — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:35:25 -0000

there was no need to continue to Baghdad.

the war plan called for trapping all of his Republican Guard divisions south of the Euphrates and basically eliminating them.

And they indeed were all trapped but the ceasefire was agreed upon about 2 days too early, so entire divisions were later allowed to escape back into iraq untouched.

Saddam barely hung on to power in the post war rebellion which we ourselves incited and called for. Had his Repub guard been degraded or destroyed to the degree we had planned for, he would have been overthrown INTERNALLY

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Bogey — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:09:53 -0000

there were AQ cells in Florida before they hijacked the jets on 9/11
Florida I assume is under our control, unlike Al Ansar's mountains in iraq (is not under Saddam's)

why didn't we invade Florida?

just in case?

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Bogey — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:08:13 -0000

Feith has been completely and utterly discredited.

he's not just the left's punching bag.. he's everyone.s

Rumsfeld's right hand man who went around check up on things for Donald told him Feith was incompetent.

I can find the guys name if you like.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Bogey — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:03:41 -0000

they were within the technical borders of Iraq, but that area was outside of Saddam's control.

if any remote cells in Baghdad or elswhere, it wasn't with Hussein's help and or support.

by your logic we should invade London and Hamburg because certainly there are most Al Qaeda cells there than in Baghdad.

In fact, you should have invaded Florida. Were't almost all the 9/11 hijackers living and training to fly planes there?

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Bogey — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:59:24 -0000

um yeah.

the "initial campaign" went "better than expected" because we encoutered NO organized armed resistance from any regular army units.

it was like a race on top of Bradleys and Humvees to Baghdad.

the security situation was massively deteriorating way before the bombing of the mosque.

In fact immediately after liberting Baghad, the place turned into one big looting zone. It was better (or worse) than the 1967 Watts Riots.

Donald Rumsfeld said at the time, that it was just people "celebrating democracy".

umm.. err..

then he said " freedom's messy".

umm.. err.

yeah.

in the meantime some of the most valuable historical artifacts in Baghdad Museums was being pilfered and or destroyed. The country's cultural heritage.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

txslr — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:20:31 -0000

Try to slow down and think a little. First, I believe it was the 4th ID that was supposed to come in through Turkey and secure the west, including the border. Remember? Turkey wouldn't let them in. Turkey's last minute change of heart left the military with a tough situation to deal with. They felt that, on balance, it would be better to proceed with what they had rather than to delay.

And also remember that the claim - a reasonalbe one, by the way - is that Saddam removed his WMD's to Syria BEFORE we invaded. How could we have sealed the Syrian border BEFORE we invaded? Or are you saying we should have invaded Syria?!

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

txslr — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:13:58 -0000

Good news! We are holding the guilty responsible. We are hunting them down and killing them.

As for Afghanistan, get a clue. We're not losing. We are leaning that NATO isn't worth the powder to blow it to hell, but to conclude that we are "losing" requires one hell of an imagination.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

txslr — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:06:58 -0000

As to the second, it isn't true. First, the Duelfer report concluded that Saddam intended to reconstitute his WMD programs. Now he won't. Secondly, we WERE greeted as liberators. Third, I don't recall anyone from the administration saying that the occupation would pay for itself in any direct way. Fourth, they do have a democracy - that's what all those elections were about. Finally, at this point it doesn't look like the Iranians are going to win anything in Iraq, strategically or otherwise. Their side is losing.

As to the conduct of the war, you've got that wrong too. Of course the initial campaign went better than anyone expected. After that the "insurgents" tried a number of approaches to chasing us out. They targeted our troops, but that didn't work. They targeted the fledgling Iraqi Security Forces (notably by bombing recruiting centers) and that didn't work either. Then they took to mass scale slaughter of civilians. That also didn't get them the result they wanted (i.e. a U.S. withdrawal). Then they tried to spark a civil war by fomenting sectarian killings. Do larely to Shiite forebearance born of their support for democracy, even that failed until the bombing of the Golden Mosque in Samara in 2006. The U.S. military mission in Iraq continued to believe that their approach to to Iraq would succeed, even in the aftermath of the Golden Mosque, but Bush began to disagree and sought another way. This resulted in the so-called "surge", which is working.

See, when you get the facts right it doesn't look like ignorance, stupidity or arrogance. The enemy adapted, we adapted, we're winning.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Del_Dolemonte — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:53:56 -0000

So on your planet, al Qaeda can have cells and/or sympathizers everywhere in the world...except for ONE country?

I must come visit your world some time. Sounds like an interesting place. Do you have AQ cells there, too?

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Del_Dolemonte — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:43:28 -0000

" I believe NOTHING that Feith says about anything. In fact he was massively involved in perpetrating the Iraq/al Qeada link that no one else believed."

Ah, Feith. The Looney Left's favorite punching bag. Haven't you got any better material?

You must have been on school vacation when Feith was cleared last April by the Pentagon Inspector General, who had investigated him at the request of the Democrats.

The Department of Defense had been asked by Democrats in Congress to see if Feith and/or his office had done anything illegal in their investigation and reports regarding the depth of ties between Al Queda and Saddam Hussein’s regime. The Department of Defense’s interim Inspector General said essentially that Feith and his office had acted inappropriately by giving the impression that they were an intelligence agency, but that they had not acted illegally. He was innocent of the charges made by Congressional Democrats and opponents of the war in Iraq.

Here's the complete findings...

http://www.fas.org/irp/agen...

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Del_Dolemonte — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:31:21 -0000

THAT old? I doubt it.

Re: The Despicable Nature Of Our Enemy

Del_Dolemonte — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:22:30 -0000

We DID do what we supposed to do in Gulf War 1. We evicted Iraq from Kuwait. That's all the UN mandate called for, and many of the Gulf nations that sent troops to Pappy Bush's coalition only did so when they were assured that we wouldn't continue to Baghdad.