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Re: Wife Or Child -- Which One Has The Best Foreign-Policy Experience?

Bill Yoak — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:46:58 -0000

Your critic of the potential Democratic candidates for there foreign policy experience is laughable at best.You lovingly backed Georgie boy as your man twice and he had never left the country once accomplishing this by dodging the draft during the Viet nam war .Keep up the good work Bill Yoak Garden Grove

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Ray_in_MPLS — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:18:18 -0000

Sorry about the missing close tag. Capt'n, you really need to bring back the preview feature.

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Ray_in_MPLS — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:16:38 -0000

Hillary's making a big mistake by claiming that being the First Lady has given her experience in matters foreign policy. The only way anyone can gain experience in something is to perform an action directly related to it. Being First Lady may have given her exposure</v> to how foreign policy is formed and carried out, but in no way has it given her any experience in this matter unless she actually attended state department briefings, received intelligence reports, consulted advisers, and helped form and implement policy decisions. So far, there's no indication that she has done any of this at all. And in some cases, like receiving intelligence briefings, it is impossible that she could have participated as she didn't have the required clearances. This makes her "experience" equal to Mr. Obama's, none whatsoever.

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NahnCee — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:48:27 -0000

WAsn't Obama born/raised a Muslim the first few years of his life? If I was him, I'd stay VERY far away from holding those years up to any sort of scrutiny. WAs he enrolled in a kindergarten or a madrassa, for example.

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herddog505 — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:39:41 -0000

An excellent point. It's worth knowing whether a candidate is going to stand up for America and American sovereignty or whether he will worship at the altar of the UN and "multilateralism". Who does he see as our friends in the world? What are our vital interests, and what will he do to protect them? Who are our enemies and how will he deal with them? (Hint: if the answer contains "UN", I'm going to be inclined to dismiss him out of hand.)

Getting straight answers to these questions is worth a lot more than hearing tired recitations about "How long I've served on the Foreign Relations Committee" or "Which international leaders I've met in restaurants in NYC" or "How I spent my vacation in Europe when I was eleven."

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ClydeS — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:55:13 -0000

Some people are born to greatness.
Some people have greatness thrust upon them.
The closest some people come to greatness is being penetrated by it.
And that would be the case with Hillary, if you consider Bill to be "great," which I don't.

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ClydeS — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:36:28 -0000

MoDo's shtick is writing negative stuff about the president. From what I've heard, it's all she's done for the past six years. (I lost track of her while she was trapped behind the Iron TimesSelect Curtain, and never felt the urge to reconnect with her snarkiness.) If she expects Hillary to win, and doesn't want to have to come up with a new shtick, she's got to start reworking her material for Clinton 44.

Not like it's gonna win her a lot of love from Her Nixonian-ness. (And I think that's an insightful take on Hillary's character by MoDo -- but even a stopped clock is right twice a day!)

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PoliticalNightTrain — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:45:51 -0000

I suppose when Hillary gets attacked by Republicans on her lack of experience, Bill will rush out and say it was Hillary that was making all the foreign policy decisions.

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unclesmrgol — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:20:40 -0000

You forgot the third "M" -- Mahmoud. We have his ire, too. But maybe not for long.

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richma — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:33:23 -0000

Unfortunately, it is an article of faith among women that the skills and abilities of the husband are passed on to the wife. Mrs. Barry Bonds wouldn't attempt to maintain that because the means of judging her assumed skills (batsmanship) are objective enough to expose the obvious fallacy-- but Mrs. (Senator and wife of the late Senator from Missouri) Carnahan for example, DID maintain it and many voting in that election--believed it.

Many will vote for Mrs. Clinton almost SOLELY because they are convinced that Hillary is-through marriage, everything Bill was.

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foodserver — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:29:29 -0000

Many will vote for Mrs. Clinton almost SOLELY because they are convinced that Hillary is-through marriage, everything Bill was.

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Jaeger51 — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:07:00 -0000

Could this get any worse? As bad as the Repub candidates are (except for the one that has been made a non-entity by the media, Duncan Hunter) the Dem candidates are a joke. Except if one of them wins, the joke's on us. And how far have our standards fallen? Remember when Bill had to give his famous "I didn't inhale" line to survive? And who would have considered Jackie Kennedy for President? And she didn't even have socialist ideas, as far as I know..... Don't even mention Edwards. Can't someone plausible be drafted from the general public?

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COgirl — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:06:45 -0000

If the issue was picking china, Hillary has Obama beat hands down. But for her to be touting her experience as first lady as something that makes her more electable is ludicrous. Lots of chutzpah.

And one question. If she was a "co-president", why doesn't the 2 term limit apply to her now. Seems like she wants to have it both ways.

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unclesmrgol — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:47:08 -0000

When the GOP has their clocks cleaned in 2008, they will finally have clean clocks -- cleaner than the dirty clocks the Bonkeys will have. Perhaps their cleaner clocks will help them know what to do in 2008 and beyond better than the Bonks. But they could go buy those clocks early on eBay. Then they would have a head start.

Again, the future. Again. As I have said before, the future is indeed too complex to call because it is the future, not the present or the past. Only if you are the man upstairs is the future not complex. But since we aren't, it is.

Judging Presidencies is done in the future too. It is rarely done in the present, and when it is, it is done badly. Remember that. Got it?

Irak. Beautiful Irak. But with wrecked furniture. Not by the owners, but by the guests. But wrecked none the less. Got it.

The Sunnis. Part of the House of Saud. Which owns the House of Bush. Which is why Maliki doesn't like us. Got it.

Ah, the Whigs. I remember them. They thought there should be compromise. But there was no compromise -- hence the Republicans. And when the Republicans finally compromised, we got more slavery. The result says politics is the implementation of compromise. Dirty, nasty, politics. With Clay being the pigeon and throwing the election like a bunch of Black Sox doing the World Series. Got it.

But as Lincoln and his minions were destroyed by the Bonkeys -- a shot to the head if you will, so will be Bush and his House.

No, we won't get our $3 trillion back unless we suck out every last bit of oil the Iraqis have and pay them nothing. And even then it's not enough, because blood is worth more than oil. Every time a Democrat in the big city dies of cold due to no oil, they want to suck the blood of our patriots. And, of course, most important, is to never trust leaders whose names start with "M" -- they each remind us of the other too much in our stream of consciousness. Consciousness. Stream. Oil. Got it.

And the House of Bush may have dug dry holes, but at least two children resulted. And with all that money in Switzerland held for them by the House of Saud, it doesn't matter, does it? Now Bush's greatest diplomacy will occur -- forcing the Swiss to build the fuel for Iran's nukes. And Jimmy? He's a friend of Bush. Got it.

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Aaron — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:44:14 -0000

Does Obama speak Indonesian?

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quickjustice — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:13:51 -0000

You're always good for a laugh, Teresa. If Giuliani is a serial philanderer (he's certainly a serial husband!), and if supporting a serial philanderer like Bill Clinton causes loss of all credibility, what does that do to your credibility, Hillary Clinton's credibility (since she has supported Bill through all of the affairs), NOW's credibility, and the credibility of the entire Democrat Party?

LOL!

Re: Wife Or Child -- Which One Has The Best Foreign-Policy Experience?

herddog505 — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:51:02 -0000

Well, what I actually hate is the fact that the President of the United States, aided and abetted by his wife, his aides, and his former "business associates", lied like a damned rug before a grand jury.

perjury (ˈpər-jə-rē, ˈpərj-rē): n the voluntary violation of an oath or vow either by swearing to what is untrue or by omission to do what has been promised under oath : false swearing (1)

But I'm sure that it's OK because (A) it was only about sex and (B) Republicans do it, too!

/sarcasm

By the way, is there some limit on the amount of money that the government can spend when pursuing a crime? I mean, can suspects go into court and demand that investigations be called off if the prosecution / police spend more than "X" dollars? Does the dollar amount vary with the type of charges? Can Scooter Libby get off the hook if he can show that Fitz spent too much money? Or, should I say, "wasted" millions of tax dollars on a "stupid" prosecution?

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Re: Wife Or Child -- Which One Has The Best Foreign-Policy Experience?

herddog505 — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:41:57 -0000

Oh, no! Not you, too!

A-one, a-two, a-one-two-three...

Everybody does it. I hate Bush. Everybody does it. I hate Bush. Everybody does it. I hate Bush. Everybody does it. I hate Bush. Everybody does it. I hate Bush. Four legs good, two legs better. Four legs good, two legs better. Four legs good, two legs better.

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Teresa — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:19:40 -0000

Oh, please. You can hate Bill fooling around and still think the whole Ken Starr witch hunt that wasted millions of tax dollars was also stupid.

Re: Wife Or Child -- Which One Has The Best Foreign-Policy Experience?

Teresa — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:17:30 -0000

And conservatives tossed all their credibility by supporting a serial philanderer like Rudy
Guiliani. (And, by the way, when he gave his mistress a $250,000 a year city job I'd
consider that "in the work place" as well.)

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ogopogo — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:17:26 -0000

that's a lie.
Carol has unique style ....you'll catch to it ....it takes time and some thinking.
thanks Carol
ogopogo

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Del Dolemonte — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:12:38 -0000

Unless Obama wins the nomination, my guess is that he serves out his Senate term in Illinois, then move back to Hawaii, where he'll run for the Senate seat of the rapidly aging Daniel Inouye.

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newton — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:03:25 -0000

Hillary Clinton is THE master of ashtray diplomacy.

Thanks for making me clean my laptop screen! LOL!

This whole argument about being with "world leaders" as opposed to living abroad as a kid is too stupid for words. It's just like saying that Sen. McCain's unfortunate but very brave stint as a POW at the Hanoi Hilton can be counted as "foreign policy experience." (Definitely counts as courage under fire and perseverance, though, unlike Hillary's...)

Very few Presidents as past nominees in recent past had any real foreign policy experience, with the one notable exception of Bush Sr.

GWB: Gov. of TX, dealing a little bit with the Mexican government as Gov. That's it.
Bill: Before 92, was mainly... a stint at Oxford and... trips to IHOP, perhaps?
Reagan: Don't tell me that movie star and "spokesman" for GE count: Gov. of CA, maybe. Carter: Gimme a break!
Ford: He was first a Congresscritter before becoming VP, and then... I really don't know: can you correct me on this?
Nixon: What did he do, foreign policy-wise, before becoming President, or maybe while VP? Provoke Nikita, perhaps that's it? Can anyone tell me?
Johnson: Lucky guy, Sen from TX, no FP exp.
Kennedy: Don't ask.
Eisenhower: He was Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in Europe during WWII. Now, that's Foreign Policy experience!

Sorry, Hillary, but having photo-ops and chat dinners with world leaders don't count. "World leaders" don't elect American Presidents: the American People do.

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herddog505 — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:54:24 -0000

Like when the nutroots not only carp about Bush's admitted use of coke when he was a young man, but claim he's STILL on it? When he's not drunk, that is.

Frankly, I don't care whether The Dope smoked dope or anything else as a young man. Presumably, he's clean now (if not, then he's got some 'splainin to do!). Part of getting older is growing up, leaving behind one's youthful indiscretions and stupidity. Hopefully, he's done that.

That being said, The Dope simply hasn't got the smarts to be president. Hell, if not for the VERY low bar set by such duds as Babs Boxer and Tickle Me Elmo Larry Craig, he wouldn't have the smarts to be a senator.

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John — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:15:14 -0000

Captain, I wouldn't waste too much concern about Ms. Dowd's future vis a vis the Clintons, despite this column. Remember, the reason she won her Pulitzer was she was all over Bill Clinton from January to September 1998 over the Lewinsky affair -- until the preliminary report came out, at which time she penned another nasty column, only with the tag line at the end being the villain was now Ken Starr for delving into Clinton's private life. From there on she was a staunch supporter of moving on from the affair, and not only was she never called on her switch, she earned journalism's highest honor in April of the following year.

So Maureen will verbally take a spiked 2-by-4 to the Clinton campaign for the next couple of months, and then turn on a dime and bash Romney, Giuliani, McCain or even Thompson with even more vitriol once she gets the nomination and her Republican opponent becomes known, and no one will find the juxtaposition in the least bit surprising.